Willie Mays 2003 Forged Counterfeit 2003 Topps Legends Card

[homerunhitter]

I thought “pack certified” autographs were pretty much as close as authentic as possible???

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

I thought “pack certified” autographs were pretty much as close as authentic as possible???

The cards that came from Topps and Upper Deck are fine. These are not from them. They are counterfeit cards. Someone made these cards and forged the signatures.

As I said, they are very good fakes. They have foil and holograms from Topps and Upper Deck. It fooled me.

[homerunhitter]

Thank you for your response on this. I ask because I was starting to get worried because I got rid of a ton of psa certified hof autographs (sold on eBay) and used that money to “upgrade” my hof collection to pack certified hof autographs because I wanted to be 110% sure my autographs were real ( instead of those slabbed and authenticated by psa, Sgc, Beckett, JSA ..etc then I saw this thread and was like good grief! What are we as collectors suppose to do!? I bought pack pulled autos to eliminate any doubt whatsoever!!! So thank you for reassuring me that pack pulled autographs are authentic.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Below are just a few links to my blogs/threads on some of the forged/counterfeit cards.

I first began observing these from Ebay sellers TNTNorthnj, Lyonhrt7777, Jonacarn_44 and most recently from Ebay seller Daniecarchi-0, Dealsfromyustey and others.


https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...ogPost:1337379


https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...er-deck-baseba

[Yastrzemski Sports]

Originally Posted by homerunhitter

Thank you for your response on this. I ask because I was starting to get worried because I got rid of a ton of psa certified hof autographs (sold on eBay) and used that money to “upgrade” my hof collection to pack certified hof autographs because I wanted to be 110% sure my autographs were real ( instead of those slabbed and authenticated by psa, Sgc, Beckett, JSA ..etc then I saw this thread and was like good grief! What are we as collectors suppose to do!? I bought pack pulled autos to eliminate any doubt whatsoever!!! So thank you for reassuring me that pack pulled autographs are authentic.

I think the point here is not to trust anything - to start questioning everything you buy and to educate yourself so you don’t get burned. People are making fake pack certified cards now. If you pulled it yourself then you are ok. Otherwise you don’t know where it came from and you need to be on the lookout for counterfeit cards and know how to spot them.

[homerunhitter]

I buy all mine on eBay. Very rarely do I pull them from packs. 😞

[thetruthisoutthere]

Below is a YouTube link showing Dave and Adam's Card World "pulling" one of those forged/counterfeit "Willie Mays 1996-97" Topps cards.

Please note that this is not a "pack pull."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82SSbtBYPg

[thetruthisoutthere]

As most of you know, I've been exposing numerous Derek Jeter, Sandy Koufax, Johnny Unitas, etc. forged/counterfeit cards.

Check out Ebay seller Gofsu2010 (a major seller of GFA-certed forgeries awhile back); he has sold 15 forged/counterfeit Johnny Unitas "2001 Upper Deck Legends" autograph cards.

He had all of them listed as 1-day auctions.

Below are screenshots of some of those sales.


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He listed number 16 yesterday, which ends tonight (10/27/2019).


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[clydepepper]

I'm worried now as I have purchased many Topps Certified Autograph cards including three Mays cards.

Opinions on this Ohtani?

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[Deertick]

Welcome back, Chris!

Article in SCD by Rich Muller. Not counterfeit, IMO worse.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ChDaq0O0jwX8sE

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Welcome back, Chris!

Article in SCD by Rich Muller. Not counterfeit, IMO worse.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ChDaq0O0jwX8sE

Thank you, Jim.

I saw a few of those on YouTube from some of the breakers who pulled them.

What a mess for Topps/Fanatics.