Argument for why Tobacco insert cards cannot realistically be Grades of 8 or 9

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by tedzan

George

My answer to your question is very simple. But, first I must inform you that we are talking about a collection that comprises of every major BB set from 1888 to 1987 (all complete).
And in some cases multiple sets of my favorites....such as 1941 PLAY BALL, 1949 LEAF, 1949 BOWMAN, and 4 different T206 complete (or near complete sets). Plus, several FB sets.

Can you imagine if all these cards (26,000+) were graded, I would need another house to store them in. Actually, I have a large barn, but critters (big and tiny) visit it often.

Anyway, my Grandson is an avid BB fan, and he appreciates the history of the game. He will be inheriting my entire collection.....so, there's my simple answer to you.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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wow!

[Exhibitman]

Anecdotally, the few original accumulations of T cards I have been involved with have been ex or maybe ex+ even with sitting untouched for 100 years. Even the cards I've seen come direct from being pressed inside books for 100 years don't look like the alleged 7-8-9-10 cards out there today.

And grandma, what small borders your cards have!

[Peter_Spaeth]

The many veteran collectors and dealers I have spoken to on this subject over the years have had experiences much closer to Ted's than to Michael's. Perhaps Michael has had access to finds and collections that the rest of these guys haven't, that's the only way I can think of to reconcile all this. But at least among the people I have dealt with, the consensus has been that most 8s and 9s must be altered.

[Exhibitman]

The card show point is salient. Since the seventies I’ve attended literally hundreds of shows; in the late eighties and early nineties it was 2-3 every weekend. For a few years I set up every weekend at local shows. Prewar cards never looked this good in this quantity. Postwar mainstream, yeah, there were plenty of accumulations from baby boomers that surfaced in great shape. I bought, slabbed and sold off some of those and definitely can see high end cards surviving 20-30 years in a childhood bedroom untouched until the parents move. But another fifty years? Rare, or at least rarer than now.