Darren's Rovell take on PWCC, etc.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Ask WhenItWasAHobby how interested PSA was when many years ago he presented to them conclusive evidence of cards being doctored by a Houston area dealer.

Ask anyone who remembers how forthcoming PSA was during the WIWAG debacle.

Ask anyone who has tried to post his concerns on CU and been poofed instantly how open to "civil discourse" PSA is.

But we should wait patiently for the "stakeholders" to sort this out among themselves. No thank you.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ask WhenItWasAHobby how interested PSA was when many years ago he presented to them conclusive evidence of cards being doctored by a Houston area dealer.

Ask anyone who remembers how forthcoming PSA was during the WIWAG debacle.

Ask anyone who has tried to post his concerns on CU and been poofed instantly how open to "civil discourse" PSA is.

But we should wait patiently for the "stakeholders" to sort this out among themselves. No thank you.

What was the result of the WIWAG card sale by the way....i believe that card was outed during the auction and the poster that was selling the card got all mad i believe.. but did it just sell and that was it?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

What was the result of the WIWAG card sale by the way....i believe that card was outed during the auction and the poster that was selling the card got all mad i believe.. but did it just sell and that was it?

Google WIWAG. It was a whole scandal with stolen PSA slabs, inserting lesser grade cards, etc. 2003 or thereabouts I believe. PSA refused to release the certs of affected cards.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Google WIWAG. It was a whole scandal with stolen PSA slabs, inserting lesser grade cards, etc. 2003 or thereabouts I believe. PSA refused to release the certs of affected cards.

ah i was confusing that with the outed Gehrig during the auction where the poster got all mad it was 'outed' during the auction

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

ah i was confusing that with the outed Gehrig during the auction where the poster got all mad it was 'outed' during the auction

When It Was a Game. Used to be a fairly big player in the market.

[Johnny630]

Who are the major steakholders???

[drcy]

I don't know what is meant, but don't like the sound of 'stakeholders.' Sounds too much like what is meant is PSA, Registry members and shareholders.

But I'm not putting words into the mouth of the person who said stakeholders.

Stockprice arguments in this matter mean nothing to me.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Who are the major steakholders???

They are the LAST people who should be called upon to fix this. Ya think there may be a slight conflict of interest there? Only law enforcement can begin to fix it, and there will still be tons of tainted cards in circulation.