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Old 07-23-2019, 01:24 PM
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I can definitely understand the frustration of not only not getting what you paid for, and essentially paying money to run an errand for somebody else.

I had a similar thing happen to me with Amazon. I bought one thing, was shipped another, and was told I would not be refunded or sent what I ordered until I returned the item I received by mistake. I don't have a car and I don't have local UPS pick up either. I also don't have a printer at home. This all made for a very annoying errand that I had to run for no reason other than someone else made a mistake.

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Old 07-23-2019, 01:50 PM
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Just received this email from Heritage with an attached invoice so this tells me they never sold this item just ran it up lol......


Dear Mr. Enochs,



It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Per our discussion, we have placed lot #45126 on your account. Please see the attached invoice.



If we receive the item back in our office by Friday, 7/26, we will be happy to cancel he invoice.
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:53 PM
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That is the risk you run with an auction house that reserves the right to bid on their auction lots. As long as they don't know what others are bidding there's nothing illegal about it.
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:58 PM
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That is the risk you run with an auction house that reserves the right to bid on their auction lots. As long as they don't know what others are bidding there's nothing illegal about it.
Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:20 PM
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Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
If you read their terms and conditions they actually disclose that they reserve the right to bid, which they really don't have to do, so they're not trying to hide the fact. Again it is not illegal to do so. On the other hand I won't bid against the company hosting the auction, seems like a losing game no matter how you slice it.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:39 PM
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Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

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Old 07-23-2019, 02:50 PM
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Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

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That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....
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That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....
Again, I’m confused. Why aren’t you sending it back?
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:51 PM
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I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

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Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:33 PM
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Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.
That is true because they have sent items to me when i had not paid yet but like i said until this happen and the way they want to handle themselves open my eyes on how bad they are willing to treat people.
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Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

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I'm not implying they do it on every card, or even on a lot of cards. I also don't think they have access to top bids and if they win something I am sure they are paying consignors appropriately. I don't for a second doubt they are following the law. I am not trying to start a conspiracy or scandal thread as I don't think there is one. They do however participate in a business practice that I find distasteful as a buyer and unethical as an auctioneer. Of course they make millions of dollars and I make dozens so...
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Just received this email from Heritage with an attached invoice so this tells me they never sold this item just ran it up lol......


Dear Mr. Enochs,



It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Per our discussion, we have placed lot #45126 on your account. Please see the attached invoice.



If we receive the item back in our office by Friday, 7/26, we will be happy to cancel he invoice.
I would not assume that, although it may be true. They're probably just trying to pressure you to return it promptly. Perhaps so they can forward it on to the actual buyer.
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I would not assume that, although it may be true. They're probably just trying to pressure you to return it promptly. Perhaps so they can forward it on to the actual buyer.
They have in there right now I can pay for it so I don't think its going to any buyer.....
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