Hertiage Auction :(

renoch01 · #1 07-23-2019, 02:50 PM

Just received this email from Heritage with an attached invoice so this tells me they never sold this item just ran it up lol......

Dear Mr. Enochs,

It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Per our discussion, we have placed lot #45126 on your account. Please see the attached invoice.

If we receive the item back in our office by Friday, 7/26, we will be happy to cancel he invoice.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #2 07-23-2019, 02:53 PM

That is the risk you run with an auction house that reserves the right to bid on their auction lots. As long as they don't know what others are bidding there's nothing illegal about it.

renoch01 · #3 07-23-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

That is the risk you run with an auction house that reserves the right to bid on their auction lots. As long as they don't know what others are bidding there's nothing illegal about it.

Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes

Aquarian Sports Cards · #4 07-23-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by renoch01

Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes

If you read their terms and conditions they actually disclose that they reserve the right to bid, which they really don't have to do, so they're not trying to hide the fact. Again it is not illegal to do so. On the other hand I won't bid against the company hosting the auction, seems like a losing game no matter how you slice it.

danmckee · #5 07-23-2019, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by renoch01

Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes

Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

Dan Mckee

renoch01 · #6 07-23-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by danmckee

Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

Dan Mckee

That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....

jhs5120 · #7 07-23-2019, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by renoch01

That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....

Again, I�m confused. Why aren�t you sending it back?

renoch01 · #8 07-23-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jhs5120

Again, I�m confused. Why aren�t you sending it back?

what is there about the confussion maybe if you read the post you would see that is not the case at all. Maybe you don't work or only part time that you can get away and run your errands at will but that is not the case for me and it has only been 3 business days.....please read before opening your mouth

ruth-gehrig · #9 07-23-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by danmckee

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

Dan Mckee

Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.

renoch01 · #10 07-23-2019, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.

That is true because they have sent items to me when i had not paid yet but like i said until this happen and the way they want to handle themselves open my eyes on how bad they are willing to treat people.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #11 07-23-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by danmckee

Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

Dan Mckee

I'm not implying they do it on every card, or even on a lot of cards. I also don't think they have access to top bids and if they win something I am sure they are paying consignors appropriately. I don't for a second doubt they are following the law. I am not trying to start a conspiracy or scandal thread as I don't think there is one. They do however participate in a business practice that I find distasteful as a buyer and unethical as an auctioneer. Of course they make millions of dollars and I make dozens so...

pokerplyr80 · #12 07-23-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by renoch01

Just received this email from Heritage with an attached invoice so this tells me they never sold this item just ran it up lol......

Dear Mr. Enochs,

It was a pleasure speaking with you today. Per our discussion, we have placed lot #45126 on your account. Please see the attached invoice.

If we receive the item back in our office by Friday, 7/26, we will be happy to cancel he invoice.

I would not assume that, although it may be true. They're probably just trying to pressure you to return it promptly. Perhaps so they can forward it on to the actual buyer.

renoch01 · #13 07-23-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I would not assume that, although it may be true. They're probably just trying to pressure you to return it promptly. Perhaps so they can forward it on to the actual buyer.

They have in there right now I can pay for it so I don't think its going to any buyer.....

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