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Old 07-23-2019, 01:58 PM
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That is the risk you run with an auction house that reserves the right to bid on their auction lots. As long as they don't know what others are bidding there's nothing illegal about it.
Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:20 PM
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Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
If you read their terms and conditions they actually disclose that they reserve the right to bid, which they really don't have to do, so they're not trying to hide the fact. Again it is not illegal to do so. On the other hand I won't bid against the company hosting the auction, seems like a losing game no matter how you slice it.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:39 PM
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Scott you are 100% right I would have not thought that before but looking back I would put in my max bid because I would need to be in bed and I swear that at least 90% if not more of the lots I won were right at my max bid and there were a lot lately that I really thought if someone got me to my max they would have bid one more time to over take it........sad it took something like this to really open my eyes
Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

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Old 07-23-2019, 02:50 PM
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Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

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That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:01 PM
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That might be true and the fact that I had told them I have not opened the box might have been a red flag for them lol...but I told them and sent pics that evening that I did have the lot....its just what happen after that blows my mind that I should bend over backwards for there mistake and the fact that now I don't think this lot which I did bid on but did not win is now being invoiced to me.....
Again, I’m confused. Why aren’t you sending it back?
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:35 PM
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Again, I’m confused. Why aren’t you sending it back?
what is there about the confussion maybe if you read the post you would see that is not the case at all. Maybe you don't work or only part time that you can get away and run your errands at will but that is not the case for me and it has only been 3 business days.....please read before opening your mouth
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:56 PM
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Rich, there’s no question they treated you poorly and should have just sent you your correct package and waited for you to return the wrong one. It’s also true that they are trying to strong arm you into returning the item quickly by sending you a preposterous invoice for it. However, do to your difficulty of finding time, don’t you think perhaps this could all be much simpler if you use the time spent posting on this thread to instead go and drop the package at FedEx? Not only would that resolve the problem but then the rest of us can go back to talking about Brent, Moser, the FBI, and the price of parking at the National.
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Rich, there’s no question they treated you poorly and should have just sent you your correct package and waited for you to return the wrong one. It’s also true that they are trying to strong arm you into returning the item quickly by sending you a preposterous invoice for it. However, do to your difficulty of finding time, don’t you think perhaps this could all be much simpler if you use the time spent posting on this thread to instead go and drop the package at FedEx? Not only would that resolve the problem but then the rest of us can go back to talking about Brent, Moser, the FBI, and the price of parking at the National.
As I was reading thru the posts, I was thinking this exact same thing. Does it suck...yes. But a lot of time has been spent posting when most likely you could have slapped the label on the box, called for a pick up and been done with it. Sound like you have a lot of other things in your life more important to deal with than this anyhow. Best of luck!
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Old 07-23-2019, 05:53 PM
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Rich, there’s no question they treated you poorly and should have just sent you your correct package and waited for you to return the wrong one. It’s also true that they are trying to strong arm you into returning the item quickly by sending you a preposterous invoice for it. However, do to your difficulty of finding time, don’t you think perhaps this could all be much simpler if you use the time spent posting on this thread to instead go and drop the package at FedEx? Not only would that resolve the problem but then the rest of us can go back to talking about Brent, Moser, the FBI, and the price of parking at the National.
I do get some breaks between patients but I am not allowed to leave so since you have all the answers try and figure that one out.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:03 PM
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Yeah, I agree, the customer service at Heritage leaves something to be desired here. They should give both the OP and original winner of the lot some sort of credit to make up for the hassle here. That's what I usually do when I screw up and mail the wrong card to my ebay buyers.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:51 PM
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I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

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Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:33 PM
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Perhaps but on the flip side people have posted on this board about receiving their items from HA before they've even paid as well. Peter is on the board, he could chime in.
That is true because they have sent items to me when i had not paid yet but like i said until this happen and the way they want to handle themselves open my eyes on how bad they are willing to treat people.
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Hmmmm I just won that last Uncle Jacks card I needed for $650. and left a $2190.00 ceiling bid.

On this thread though, I agree that the House made the error and should have rifled your lot right out to you.

I am guessing they have been smoked in the past with people keeping both their lot and the wrong original lot they received.

Not cool

Dan Mckee
I'm not implying they do it on every card, or even on a lot of cards. I also don't think they have access to top bids and if they win something I am sure they are paying consignors appropriately. I don't for a second doubt they are following the law. I am not trying to start a conspiracy or scandal thread as I don't think there is one. They do however participate in a business practice that I find distasteful as a buyer and unethical as an auctioneer. Of course they make millions of dollars and I make dozens so...
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