N284 Buchner Gold Coin Checklist Add?

[teza11]

I was wrong. Backside is not printed. Advertising cut-out?

Jeff

[packs]

I would be wary of a blank backed Buchner. Guess that still wouldn't explain why it exists, but perhaps it was a card that appeared on a poster but wasn't actually issued for one reason or another.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there

Scraps or skinned, not legit. At least as far as I am aware.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Hot Springs Bathers

Lots of blank backed Gold Coins out there

I don't know of any blank backed Buchners that were actually issued as cards. The only ones I've ever seen are cut from posters. Given that this card is unknown, I would have a hard time believing it was issued on anything other than a poster, and given the way the front looks, I'm still not sure about that either.

[bigfanNY]

Definitely a period piece???? Lol

[buchner]

Its probably a period piece, but McClellan and Toole are not part of the set. They are different, for one thing, the Brooklyn players are wearing pin stripe uniforms.

[Leon]

With a blank back my guess is now an ad cut. Not uncommon in the hobby.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by buchner

Its probably a period piece, but McClellan and Toole are not part of the set. They are different, for one thing, the Brooklyn players are wearing pin stripe uniforms.

These 2 Boston cards have different uniforms. There are all kinds of oddball actors and celebrities and police captains that are part of the set.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Feeling pretty vindicated right about now. Of course the question remains what is it?

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Feeling pretty vindicated right about now.

act like you’ve been there before.

[bigfanNY]

Act like he's been there before Lol... what about the big guns that stepped up and said this card was good? When do they do the right thing? Or is ok for the OP to go to the national and sell this card and say" so and so and so and so both said it was good so I am completely justified in passing on this modern fake off as a possibility cut from an advertisement that no one has ever seen?
Folks jump and down 24/7 about card doctors and fakes. And once the back of that card was posted there was no longer a debate if the card was good it is a modern FAKE. Everyone makes mistakes me more than most but letting this drag on is just beyond the bounds of what I thought net54 considered ethical.

[RedsFan1941]

you drew a lot of conclusions from a one sentence post. scott was right. bravo. no need to flex.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Act like he's been there before Lol... what about the big guns that stepped up and said this card was good? When do they do the right thing? Or is ok for the OP to go to the national and sell this card and say" so and so and so and so both said it was good so I am completely justified in passing on this modern fake off as a possibility cut from an advertisement that no one has ever seen?
Folks jump and down 24/7 about card doctors and fakes. And once the back of that card was posted there was no longer a debate if the card was good it is a modern FAKE. Everyone makes mistakes me more than most but letting this drag on is just beyond the bounds of what I thought net54 considered ethical.

There is almost no way you can be certain it is fake or real, given the photo and info we have. Saying so, imo, is reckless. I still think it is from an ad but am not sure. If I had it in hand I could be about 95%- 99% but just from a scan the percentage is more like 65% - 70%. Again, just my half cent of wisdom from experiences.

[bigfanNY]

Not my opinion that says this is a fake it is my experiance. Handling ad cards hundreds of regular Gold coins and fakes such as these that seem to pop up here on east coast at flea markets and small shows. Everyone has an opinion...and just like the case with this card opinions can hurt less experienced card collectors.
Fact card is wrong size ad cards are same size as regular cards if cut to proportion.
Fact Color is wrong for a Brooklyn player
Fact This player has never appeared on any known Gold coin ad.
Fact I can see from card back stock is wrong for an ad card.
Would it help to have the card in hand...of course it would..
And my first suggestion to the OP after I told him it was fake was to send to A TPG. Saying "I think it's good go ahead and pass it on" that in my OPINION is reckless.
I dont have the deep pockets some here do and getting burned even for a couple hundred bucks of my limited hobby funds hurts.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

act like you’ve been there before.

Don't like to lie

[Cozumeleno]

Bummer - given the various N284 advertising posters that were printed, that wouldn't be surprising. Many of the poster cards have the traditional backs with ads but there have been references to blank-backed ones, too. Guessing it's one of those for a card that was not issued.

[Cozumeleno]

Just ran a search for them on the site and found this old thread. Seems there are a good number of these out there, though I've not seen any in person.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=88940

[bigfanNY]

Sure that could be it.... send it in to a TPG and see what they say...maybe they could restore the back to it's original Reprint/ fantasy lettering.

[teza11]

A few more details. Toole card is about 1/8" taller than a printed back card. Toole card is printed on card stock, however it is about 50% of the card stock weight (thickness). Definitely a period piece. So what is it? Are there other examples of players used for advertising that did not get printed as a checklist card? Any idea of value as it stands?

Jeff