N284 Buchner Gold Coin Checklist Add?

[buchner]

Its probably a period piece, but McClellan and Toole are not part of the set. They are different, for one thing, the Brooklyn players are wearing pin stripe uniforms.

[Leon]

With a blank back my guess is now an ad cut. Not uncommon in the hobby.

[bigfanNY]

Unfortunately cards manufactured to defraud collectors are also not uncommon. This card is part of that unfortunate group.
Pose and coloration NG
Back NG
No pinstripes NG
Size wrong NG
Card stock wrong NG
While I agree that it is possible to "find" a card that has not been cataloged it is also much easier for the person who creates this type of fantasy / fake card say if he gets cought that it is not a counterfeit it is an original piece of art.
The person who created this card knows full well that a handful of cards cut from a poster do exist. And he exploits the doubt that it creates. I owned for over 30 years a 3 card strip of Gold coins that was cut from advertising poster. This is not one of those. Five glaring problems with this card. And yet hope springs eternal.

[teza11]

Thanks for the additional comments. It’s clear that this is not a checklist series add, however I don’t consider it to be “fake”. If it was produced for/by the Gold Coin company for advertising purposes, then it’s a genuine cut-out from a period banner, poster, counter card, etc. Even if it did not make if off the production floor (i.e. a proof), I’d still consider it to be genuine. Maybe that helps to explain the inaccuracies like color, striping, or whatever.

I still have two questions that I’d appreciate your help with –
(1) Can someone with a N284 advertising cut-out and a N284 series card verify that the cut-out card is slightly taller than the series card?
(2) Does anyone have an advertising cut-out card for a player not on the N284 series checklist?

Jeff

[Cozumeleno]

Jeff - I have an advertising cut and it is on significantly thicker stock than the regular cards. I'll check the size of mine tonight vs. one of my 'regular' cards. Mine is the type with the Buchner advertisement on back, however, while yours appears to be the other blank-backed version, so even that might not help too much.

As you stated, just because it isn't a checklisted card doesn't mean it is not a legitimate poster cut. I haven't seen one of the blank-backed types in person so can't speak to your stock and how it should look/feel, as well as the size of it. You'd probably need someone with one of those to weigh in.

Originally Posted by teza11

Thanks for the additional comments. It’s clear that this is not a checklist series add, however I don’t consider it to be “fake”. If it was produced for/by the Gold Coin company for advertising purposes, then it’s a genuine cut-out from a period banner, poster, counter card, etc. Even if it did not make if off the production floor (i.e. a proof), I’d still consider it to be genuine. Maybe that helps to explain the inaccuracies like color, striping, or whatever.

I still have two questions that I’d appreciate your help with –
(1) Can someone with a N284 advertising cut-out and a N284 series card verify that the cut-out card is slightly taller than the series card?
(2) Does anyone have an advertising cut-out card for a player not on the N284 series checklist?

Jeff

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by buchner

Its probably a period piece, but McClellan and Toole are not part of the set. They are different, for one thing, the Brooklyn players are wearing pin stripe uniforms.

These 2 Boston cards have different uniforms. There are all kinds of oddball actors and celebrities and police captains that are part of the set.