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Old 05-05-2019, 06:10 PM
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Looks like the Musial in this was previously a BGS 6 and part of the right edge may have been shaved. Check the blowout thread.
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Old 05-05-2019, 06:17 PM
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Looks like the Musial in this was previously a BGS 6 and part of the right edge may have been shaved. Check the blowout thread.
It's an epidemic. And has been for some time. Fortunately, we have some guys with the energy to track these things down and the tech skills to depict it convincingly. We'll see where it goes. I don't know that it's going to go as far as the truth, which I believe to be just extremely ugly in terms of who is doing these things and also who is enabling them, but we'll see.
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Old 05-05-2019, 07:33 PM
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Looks like the Musial in this was previously a BGS 6 and part of the right edge may have been shaved. Check the blowout thread.
And the ID has been outed, one that will be no surprise to some of the old-timers here.
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And the ID has been outed, one that will be no surprise to some of the old-timers here.

Yep! This is true. The group on blowout is doing great research.
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Yep! This is true. The group on blowout is doing great research.
It's all very troubling, and they have turned their attention to vintage now, it's not just shiny inserts.
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It's all very troubling, and they have turned their attention to vintage now, it's not just shiny inserts.
Glad that some of BO's members have been focusing their investigative skills into this, they have certainly done a commendable job...I wonder why more folks from this board have not jumped into this saga? My guess: this is definitely not the first situation such as this that this board has seen, and most every time the scandal peeks because of the light shined on it and then life returns to (a new) normal with the situation minimized only to appear again later in a slightly different form with a few different names mixed in. It is like playing a game of whack-a-mole.

While the members of BO have done great work calling attention to this situation and this effort is much appreciated, to me it seems their expectations for recourse in this situation may have been set too high. I fear that they may come out of this situation disappointed with the 'final" outcome.
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Old 05-06-2019, 09:08 AM
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Glad that some of BO's members have been focusing their investigative skills into this, they have certainly done a commendable job...I wonder why more folks from this board have not jumped into this saga? My guess: this is definitely not the first situation such as this that this board has seen, and most every time the scandal peeks because of the light shined on it and then life returns to (a new) normal with the situation minimized only to appear again later in a slightly different form with a few different names mixed in. It is like playing a game of whack-a-mole.

While the members of BO have done great work calling attention to this situation and this effort is much appreciated, to me it seems their expectations for recourse in this situation may have been set too high. I fear that they may come out of this situation disappointed with the 'final" outcome.
Some truth to this. I admire the idealism of the BO guys but I think they may be overrating their own influence against the powers that be that have a huge interest in protecting the status quo and card values. I'd be satisfied with some diminishment of the freedom with which card doctors operate, I'm not looking to knock down windmills.

That said, I think part of the relative indifference here is that at least some people have drunk the Kool Aid.
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Some truth to this. I admire the idealism of the BO guys but I think they may be overrating their own influence against the powers that be that have a huge interest in protecting the status quo and card values. I'd be satisfied with some diminishment of the freedom with which card doctors operate, I'm not looking to knock down windmills.

That said, I think part of the relative indifference here is that at least some people have drunk the Kool Aid.
Sometimes the level of vested interest affects objectivity as well.
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Glad that some of BO's members have been focusing their investigative skills into this, they have certainly done a commendable job...I wonder why more folks from this board have not jumped into this saga? My guess: this is definitely not the first situation such as this that this board has seen, and most every time the scandal peeks because of the light shined on it and then life returns to (a new) normal with the situation minimized only to appear again later in a slightly different form with a few different names mixed in. It is like playing a game of whack-a-mole.

While the members of BO have done great work calling attention to this situation and this effort is much appreciated, to me it seems their expectations for recourse in this situation may have been set too high. I fear that they may come out of this situation disappointed with the 'final" outcome.
I jumped in and have been outspoken about it.

I was going to try and buy that Mantle Card too. Looking at another one in person today and THEN I'm OUT, just as fast as I was in.. No it's not PSA, LOL but was re-holdered once

They do have high expectations at BO and should. That's a good they have hope. Like, I hope Santa Claus comes down the chimney Dec 25th. Nothing will happen but both companies will have their reputations further soiled.



We also know absolutely nothing will change and that PREWAR, "Mr. Conservation", will continue to send doctored cards into PSA and they will keep the scam going for him and his card doctoring I mean conservation crew, IMHO. Don't worry about that.

Like I said, I just want them to come clean, but this is doctoring for profit and is FRAUD & meant to deceive plain and simple. (IMHO) They won't & can't come clean any more than they already admitted on the BO thread that the card was Doctored. They will continue to deny, even though the evidence is overwhelming that they are complicit in the crime. I mean, they have to keep lying, sorta like Tony Podsada for 40 years a liar.

As good as they were for the card business, the Curt Shilling and Gaylord Perrying is really tiresome, bothersome and crooked. F PREWAR

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Wow, that looks very close to the 52 Mantle I regrettably sold a few years back. It was originally my dad's. You never know … Slide1.jpg

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