UPDATED 5/16: BEWARE PAYPAL CHARGEBACKS! If you sell on eBay, read this...

[esd10]

If this person does receive the funds back without returning the merchandise I would consider this theft of goods and would file a police report.

[Mark17]

And if I was talking to some supervisor-level person at PayPal I would ask them if this is really a can of worms they wish to open. Because if this scam gains traction and becomes commonplace it could literally sink their company.

[yanks12025]

Paypal must have changed their policy recently.. Cause I had this same thing happen couple years ago for over $1,000.. I simply contacted PayPal, gave them the tracking number and showed that the item was delivered and signed for.. So they gave me my money back and was gonna fight the other parties back on their own.

[sterlingfox]

eBay is chock full of scammers.

Many years ago when I was selling PCs and Laptops, over the course of 14 months I had it happen to me SEVEN times for amounts between a few hundred to over $1000.

I won each and every Paypal case by providing the tracking number and a copy of the signature on file.

If this is Paypal's new policy, then it's time to jump ship!

[Tony Gordon]

I had the same thing happen to me but it was only a $30-dollar card. Paypal conducted their three-month investigation, ignored the tracking that showed the item was received, and sided with the buyer. I was out both the money and the card. I haven't listed much for sale on eBay after this.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Mark17

And if I was talking to some supervisor-level person at PayPal I would ask them if this is really a can of worms they wish to open. Because if this scam gains traction and becomes commonplace it could literally sink their company.

Yea I agree. Something seems off. I have never heard of this policy or had this issue arise yet. It would seem to me that of someone bypasses the Ebay or PayPal claim system amd disputes a credit card transaction that should be between the buyer and PayPal. Isn't that why you pay the 3 or 4% fee?

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by esd10

If this person does receive the funds back without returning the merchandise I would consider this theft of goods and would file a police report.

+1

[ramram]

I just can’t imagine that Paypal/credit card company wouldn’t have complicity in the theft if they took the funds from you without any kind of proof that the card was returned to you.

Rob M

[Jim65]

As much as I hate to defend PayPal, if a buyer initiates a chargeback through their bank or credit card, it is up to that bank whether the chargeback goes through, PayPal is powerless. If PayPal takes the money from your bank, then you do have recourse through your bank. If they seize your PayPal account, you're screwed.

I speak from experience, unfortunately.

[jbbama]

This kind of scenario really sucks, i hate that you have to deal with this BS. Just an FYI for anyone here, NEVER, NEVER, leave large amounts of money in your paypal account. Also, have that account tied to something other than your primary checking or savings account. Yes, paypal can "freeze your account" until resolved, but at least they dont have your money...you do! I learned this lesson the hard way several years back. Go get 'em......

[Baseball Fan]

Originally Posted by jbbama

This kind of scenario really sucks, i hate that you have to deal with this BS. Just an FYI for anyone here, NEVER, NEVER, leave large amounts of money in your paypal account. Also, have that account tied to something other than your primary checking or savings account. Yes, paypal can "freeze your account" until resolved, but at least they dont have your money...you do! I learned this lesson the hard way several years back. Go get 'em......

Quick question. What could the account be tied to if not checking or savings? I would possibly like to make this change due to this thread.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Baseball Fan

Quick question. What could the account be tied to if not checking or savings? I would possibly like to make this change due to this thread.

Just open a new new checking/ savings account at any bank. Like eBay IDs you an have as many as you want.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jbbama

This kind of scenario really sucks, i hate that you have to deal with this BS. Just an FYI for anyone here, NEVER, NEVER, leave large amounts of money in your paypal account. Also, have that account tied to something other than your primary checking or savings account. Yes, paypal can "freeze your account" until resolved, but at least they dont have your money...you do!

This. I have a dedicated checking account tied to PayPal and whenever it has more than a hundred bucks I sweep the excess to a savings account that is not tied into PayPal. If I sell something big that money goes right to the savings account and does not linger in my PayPal account or the dedicated checking account.