1948-49 Leaf vs. 1952 Topps

[irv]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"Confusion" only to those unfamiliar with the production of this set of cards, Peter.

In 1981, I was doing research for my article in BASEBALL Cards Magazine regarding 1949 BOWMAN vs 1949 LEAF sets. I interviewed former senior employees of both of these
Gum Co. The LEAF employee was involved in the original production of these cards. She told me that the majority of the Rights to the images and the bios of the players were
obtained during 1948 (hence 1948 Copyright). And, the remaining players were obtained in early 1949 (hence 1949 Copyright).

I very well recall as a kid that the LEAF cards were available in March - April 1949 in my neighborhood in Hillside, NJ. I have compared this date with other veteran collectors in
the hobby, and they concur with this release date (collectors from St Louis to Boston).

I have never, ever met anyone who said they acquired these cards in 1948.

We were all too busy collecting 1948 LEAF Football cards. Their Hi # series was issued circa December 1948.


TED Z

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

that is certainly your choice. you can understand why people would choose not to just accept everything a person says as the truth, i hope.

There are many on here who have a wealth of information that makes me envious but not many (that I am aware of?) can actually say they remember purchasing these cards when they were young.

That in itself trumps others who are only going by what is written and what they heard from some other collectors who likely weren't around then or didn't collect back then.

[ALR-bishop]

I do not collect the Leaf sets with the exception of 1960 but am aware of similar debates on the year of issue of some Topps test sets and Fleer issues from the late 60s an 70s. Dave Hornish has been a great source of info for me on those debates. Ted too, especially on Bowman sets. I find the debates interesting and enjoy reading them. For myself as a collector since 1957, the exact year of issue is not a crucial issue, but understand why it may be for others.

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by irv

There are many on here who have a wealth of information that makes me envious but not many (that I am aware of?) can actually say they remember purchasing these cards when they were young.

That in itself trumps others who are only going by what is written and what they heard from some other collectors who likely weren't around then or didn't collect back then.

that was kind of my point in referencing the baseball card shows from the 1970s. there were a lot of people in those rooms who collected cards in the 1940s and 50s.

i'm not saying ted is incorrect on this one. just that it's ridiculous to think that professional graders are the ones who started calling them 1948 Leafs. everybody 40 years ago called them that. if ted remembers buying cards in the 1940s, i'm sure he remembers that fact from the mid 1970s.

and i'll stick with my premise about not taking everything someone says as the gospel, whether it's ted or whoever.