1948-49 Leaf vs. 1952 Topps

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no reason at all to doubt Ted, but that's what's so confusing (to me anyhow), this isn't ancient history at all. It would be like someone today getting the date wrong on an 80s issue.

Peter
This LEAF set has been confusing to many who did not collect these cards in 1949. As I said in a previous post here....Beckett's 1979 Price Guide was not sure what year to assign
to this set, so they started the 1948-49 identification. And, it stayed that way until the mid-1990's......when Beckett corrected it to 1949. Bob Lemke's Standard Catalog is correct
with the 1949 date.

I was surprised that there was not a reply to my Post #26. So let's try this again. Shown here is a LEAF premium (7" x 5 1/2") which was enclosed in the same 24-count wax-pack
box that the LEAF cards were packaged in. SGC has correctly labelled it 1949 LEAF. But this is at variance with SGC's labelling of the LEAF BB cards as 1948-49 LEAF GUM CO.

These two pieces should have identical labelling. This is a one example of how the grading companies are screwed up on this subject.


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This discussion has become tiresome. If some of you still question the information which I've imparted in these Posts, then counter it with some meaningful replies.
Otherwise, take your "negativism" elsewhere. It's not needed here.

In any event, I refer you to my OLD CARDBOARD (Issue #9) article (8 pages) regarding the 1949 LEAF BB set. I received a tremendous amount of compliments
on it. Contact Lyman Hardeman for back copies of this magazine.

Thanks Dale (#30) and Al (post #35) for the kind words.....I really appreciate them.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter
This LEAF set has been confusing to many who did not collect these cards in 1949. As I said in a previous post here....Beckett's 1979 Price Guide was not sure what year to assign
to this set, so they started the 1948-49 identification. And, it stayed that way until the mid-1990's......when Beckett corrected it to 1949. Bob Lemke's Standard Catalog is correct
with the 1949 date.

I was surprised that there was not a reply to my Post #26. So let's try this again. Shown here is a LEAF premium (7" x 5 1/2") which was enclosed in the same 24-count wax-pack
box that the LEAF cards were packaged in. SGC has correctly labelled it 1949 LEAF. But this is at variance with SGC's labelling of the LEAF BB cards as 1948-49 LEAF GUM CO.

These two pieces should have identical labelling. This is a one example of how the grading companies are screwed up on this subject.


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This discussion has become tiresome. If some of you still question the information which I've imparted in these Posts, then counter it with some meaningful replies.
Otherwise, take your "negativism" elsewhere. It's not needed here.

In any event, I refer you to my OLD CARDBOARD (Issue #9) article (8 pages) regarding the 1949 LEAF BB set. I received a tremendous amount of compliments
on it. Contact Lyman Hardeman for back copies of this magazine.

Thanks Dale (#30) and Al (post #35) for the kind words.....I really appreciate them.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Hey Pat

The STANDARD CATALOG of VINTAGEBASEBALL CARDS (Bob LEMKE) on Page 241 lists the LEAF BB SET as 1949.

What catalog are you talking about ?


T-Rex
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey Pat

The STANDARD CATALOG of VINTAGEBASEBALL CARDS (Bob LEMKE) on Page 241 lists the LEAF BB SET as 1949.

What catalog are you talking about ?


T-Rex
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[tedzan]

Well, since Bob Lemke no longer edits this Price Guide, the LEAF BB card set has been INCORRECTLY changed to 1948.
There was no one more knowledgeable than Bob Lemke when it came to BB card dates. This change is mis-leading.

Anyhow. at least they have the LEAF premiums correctly dated as a 1949 issue. Which leads me to ask you this, Pat.

Enclosed inside each 24-count box of LEAF wax-packs was one of the nine premiums. I recall this well as a kid buying
LEAF packs. So, how can anyone in their right mind claim that these BB cards are not a 1949 issue ?

And tell us.....what year do you believe these LEAF BB cards were issued ? ?









TED Z

T206 Reference
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[ALR-bishop]

I do miss corresponding with Bob over card issues, and still use the last Catalog he edited, along with the last Catalog with post 80 issues. Who is the current editor ?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Well, since Bob Lemke no longer edits this Price Guide, the LEAF BB card set has been INCORRECTLY changed to 1948.
There was no one more knowledgeable than Bob Lemke when it came to BB card dates. This change is mis-leading.

Anyhow. at least they have the LEAF premiums correctly dated as a 1949 issue. Which leads me to ask you this, Pat.

Enclosed inside each 24-count box of LEAF wax-packs was one of the nine premiums. I recall this well as a kid buying
LEAF packs. So, how can anyone in their right mind claim that these BB cards are not a 1949 issue ?

And tell us.....what year do you believe these LEAF BB cards were issued ? ?





TED Z

T206 Reference
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I don't know Ted I was only commenting on the finger being pointed
at the grading companies.