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Old 05-26-2018, 04:06 PM
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Default T206 REFERENCE....Reflections, Theorys, Surveys......T206 printed sheet structure

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Continuing the "12 factor" in the printing of T206 sheets. It appears that the PIEDMONT 460, Factory #42 cards were printed on a sheet formatted 12 cards across by
6 rows of cards down. Listed here are the 72 confirmed PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 cards. It has been my experience (and several serious collectors of this particular
PIEDMONT back) that 72 cards complete this run.






PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 confirmed list......72 subjects

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Chase (Trophy)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)

Larry Doyle (bat)
Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Latham
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Marquard (follow thru)
Mathewson (dark cap)

McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Merkle (throwing)
Mullin (bat)
Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)

Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)
CYoung (glove)


OK, there are more examples forthcoming which support the "12 factor". However, with the examples already presented here in these 4 posts, if you are not convinced
that ALC printed the T206 sheets with 12 cards horizontally on a given sheet, then feel free to post your counter to my premise of how these cards were printed.
The "12 factor" jives with the mathematical structure of the various T206 series.



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Old 05-28-2018, 07:31 AM
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Switching to tobacco sets other than the T206 for the moment. Here are examples of the "12 factor" as it applies to the T205 set and the 1910-1912 T215 set.

The printing of the T205 set is quite complex. But, one series of this set is very clear. This series of T205's were printed circa Fall/Winter 1911............

T205 Minor Leaguers (12 subjects)

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The 1910-1912 T215 RED CROSS set consists of 96 subjects. My guess is ALC printed the first run of these cards on a 48-card sheet in 1910.
Followed by a 2nd printing of 48 different cards (circa 1911-1912).




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Old 05-29-2018, 07:51 PM
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Now, let's consider the T206 group we refer to as the Elite 11. Actually, 12 subjects are in this group when we include the one Frank Schulte card with the
rare PIEDMONT 350 back. Is this card a printer's anomaly, or was it legitimately issued ? Only time can provide us the answer to this question. So, for now
this series of guys conform with the magic "12 factor".


Elite 11.....plus Schulte







SWEET CAPORAL 150, Factory #649 (overprint) sheet

The make-up of an early 150 Series sheet is known by virtue of the SWEET CAPORAL 150, Factory #649 overprinted cards. It is my firm opinion that the
34 subjects in this group were printed on a 36-card sheet, in which ALC included two Double-Printed (D-P) cards.

The number "34" does not in any way fit into the 150 Series structure of 156 subjects.

Regarding the two D-P cards, my 1st guess would be Johnson and Mathewson. Does anyone here want to venture a guess which 2 subjects were D-P ?


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