T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[Noy]

I assume the tragic event in question was Carl Mays hitting and killing Ray Chapman with a pitch, but I have no idea what the foreshadowing event might have been. Interested in finding out.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Noy

I assume the tragic event in question was Carl Mays hitting and killing Ray Chapman with a pitch, but I have no idea what the foreshadowing event might have been. Interested in finding out.

Noy

Your answer for the 1st question is correct....Ray Chapman died Aug 17, 1920 after having been struck by a ball pitched by Carl Mays the previous day.

Stay tuned for the story regarding the 2nd question. You'll find it very interesting.


TED Z
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[tedzan]

Well, is this quiz that tough......or is there just no interest in this topic ? ?

Come on, some of you guys on this forum are pretty damn smart, so I'm puzzled that no one has offered an answer here.

Noy has got us off to a good start with Ray Chapman. I'll give you guys 2 more hours to figure out the answer.


Trust me, you will find the final answer quite thought-provoking.


TED Z

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[t206kid]

Did a player get struck by lightning during a game? I vaguely recall that happened around the time Chapman passed away

[tedzan]

Hi Jay

That may have happened, but it's not the answer to this quiz.


TED Z

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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Approx. 12 weeks before a tragic event in BB....there was an occurrence in Griffith Stadium which eerily portends this tragic event.

QUIZ

#1....What "tragic event" am I referring to ?

#2....can you describe this occurrence in Washington ?


TED Z

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On May 26, 1920 Ray Chapman was at bat vs Walter Johnson (who was pitching in relief) in the late innings. The fog started rolling into Griffith Stadium.
Chapman, who usually crowded the plate, had two quick strikes against him. At that point he stepped out of the batter's box and told the Umpire that he
cannot see the ball. He refused to face another pitch from Walter Johnson for fear of his life. The Umpire insisted he get back in the batters box.

Then Walter Johnson approached the Umpire, handed him the ball, and told him he was done pitching.

Now, I ask you....is this occurrence some sort of strange omen....or what ?


TED Z

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[tedzan]

* * * * * * * * * * * * T206 Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc. * * * * * * * * * * * *







This topic has intrigued me ever since I started collecting T206's in 1981. My following theories regarding this subject is based on my experience collecting uncut sheets
of Goudey's, Play Ball's, Leaf's, Bowman's, & Topps cards. Also, I have written articles on uncut sheets in The Baseball Cards Magazine, SCD, VCBC, and Old Cardboard.

So, I will start with American Lithographic's (ALC) original printing of the T206 cards (circa Spring/Summer 1909). ALC operated large printing presses for Artwork and
Advertising Banners. My research indicates that ALC used 19" inch track presses to print the T206 cards. These same size presses were used to print the T205's, T213's,
T214's, t215's, etc. cards

OK, let's start with the structure of the T206 set. The very first press run comprises of 12 subjects (which includes the famous Wagner card). It's the group of T206's we
refer to as the 150-only Series.

150-only Series
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l<.................................................. ...................... 19" inch wide sheet .................................................. .........................>l


Furthermore, there are 144 additional subjects that comprise the 150 Series. And, 144 is certainly a factor of 12.



A standard size sheet of cardboard in that era was 19" inch wide by 25" inches long. As many as 108 cards could be printed on this size sheet.

For example, shown here is my concept of a printed sheet of the Exclusive 12 cards in the 460-only Series. It's been proven that this group of 12 subjects in this series
of T206's was printed separately from the other subjects in the 460-only series.


.. v ............................................ 19" x 25" sheet .............................................v





Stay tuned for more specific info regarding how the "12 factor" figures into the printing of the various series in the T206 set. The Southern League series
and the 350 Series will follow in the next post.



TED Z
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