 |
|
||||||
 |
|
|||||
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
|
|
||||||
|
|
|||||
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#1
04-18-2018, 06:58 AM
|
||||
|
||||
Harper is going nuts with the stick, but he's only a left fielder. Even somewhat comparable output from a center fielder, catcher or shortstop is going to mean more WAR for the premium position player.
Honestly, while I understand the concept of value at positions that are considered defensive premiums, I think the whole thing is sightly overdone when it comes to WAR. Last I checked, Harper is by far the best player in the bigs right now.
__________________
Building these sets: T206, 1953 Bowman Color, 1975 Topps. Great transactions with: piedmont150, Cardboard Junkie, z28jd, t206blogcom, tinkertoeverstochance, trobba, Texxxx, marcdelpercio, t206hound, zachs, tolstoi, IronHorse 2130, AndyG09, BBT206, jtschantz, lug-nut, leaflover, Abravefan11, mpemulis, btcarfagno, BlueSky, and Frankbmd. 
|
|
#2
04-18-2018, 07:08 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
He is 16th in the NL this morning. Leads the league in HR RBI OBP and OPS. What a joke.
WAR Good god y'all What is it good for Absolutely nothing
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions.  My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 04-18-2018 at 07:10 AM.
|
|
#4
04-18-2018, 08:01 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I agree with the 'stache that we can question how defense is calculated. I have an issue with giving players a premium for the position they play or penalize them for playing another position. However, I don't think it gives enough value for those that are outstanding defensively. When evaluating Harper, is he an above average fielder or does his defense hurt the team? That is the question you should be asking. We know he is the best hitter in the league right now and WAR backs that up.
|
|
#5
04-18-2018, 08:23 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
So after 15 games he has supposedly cost his team close to a full game compared to the average outfielder? That sounds insane.
__________________
Net 54-- the discussion board where people resent discussions. My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/
|
|
#6
04-18-2018, 09:15 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
This reminds me of the thread where some types of card collecting get ripped... as in, there are different ways to collect and there are different ways to enjoy the game of baseball. Why rip the ways you don't like?
If you like batting average, good for you! If you enjoy wOBA, have fun! Only into sacrifice flies and balks? Enjoy it! I think people enjoying different facets of collecting and the game make it more interesting and are better for the long term viability of each. Bashing what other people enjoy is only counter-productive. In the words of the band War, "Why can't we be friends?"
|
|
#7
04-19-2018, 06:49 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
|
|
#8
04-19-2018, 07:13 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#9
04-19-2018, 07:16 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Based on Peter's question and subsequent comments, I believe I've found the answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk
|
|
#10
04-19-2018, 07:42 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER FATHER. GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH WORTHLESS NON-FUNGIBLES 274/1000 Monster Number
|
|
#11
04-20-2018, 12:57 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
The answer is never go by just one metric, and it's the fool who uses just one. Just as in science (or authentication) where you never go by one type of test. A metric or scientific test often gives useful, and even essential, information, but you should never come to a final conclusion by just the one.
And when doing or looking at precise mathematical or statistical calculations, keep in mind what Economics Nobel Prize winner Wassily Leontief said: "Page after page of academic journals are filled with mathematical formulas leading the reader from sets of more or less plausible but entirely arbitrary assumptions to precisely stated but irrelevant theoretical conclusions." Someone just yesterday asked what was my definition of genius, and I said "Someone who sees the forest not just the trees, where others see just the trees." Some would call that enlightenment. Last edited by drcy; 04-20-2018 at 01:18 PM.
|
|
#12
04-24-2018, 11:42 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
WAR stands for WINS ABOVE REPLACEMENT replacement player is a set group of numbers meant to represent a crap player called up fro AAA to replace a legit starter. an average MLB WAR is around 2.0 it is wayyyy too early to put any stock in any stats metrics are the future, they are what the teams use to build and operate their franchises, you can ignore them, hand wave them or wtvr but it comes off as flat eartherish
__________________
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away."- Tom Waits Last edited by bravos4evr; 04-24-2018 at 11:42 AM.
|
 |
|
|
Hybrid Mode
