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04-18-2018, 08:23 AM
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So after 15 games he has supposedly cost his team close to a full game compared to the average outfielder? That sounds insane.
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04-18-2018, 09:15 AM
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This reminds me of the thread where some types of card collecting get ripped... as in, there are different ways to collect and there are different ways to enjoy the game of baseball. Why rip the ways you don't like?
If you like batting average, good for you! If you enjoy wOBA, have fun! Only into sacrifice flies and balks? Enjoy it! I think people enjoying different facets of collecting and the game make it more interesting and are better for the long term viability of each. Bashing what other people enjoy is only counter-productive. In the words of the band War, "Why can't we be friends?"
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04-19-2018, 06:49 AM
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04-19-2018, 07:16 AM
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Based on Peter's question and subsequent comments, I believe I've found the answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk
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04-19-2018, 07:42 AM
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04-19-2018, 07:48 AM
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I once brought up this point and got attacked by every angle. I think you can make a better judgement with the basic stats and a good old fashioned eye test.
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04-19-2018, 09:51 AM
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Defensive measures tend to swing around wildly. The problem is probably that Harper had a few bad games defensively and hasn't yet had enough good games to make up for them. By the end of the season he almost certainly will though.
Same deal with Dickerson, just the other way around. Dickerson isn't a good fielder. He's probably made a few spectacular plays early this season, and his usual lackluster plays haven't made up for them yet. But they will. Think about it this way: Jed Lowrie isn't going to lead the majors in RBIs this season. But he is leading the majors in RBIs right now. He's had unusual success batting with men on base early this season, but by the end of the year his batting in clutch situations will drop off and Springer or somebody like that will lead the league in RBIs. Same deal with Harper/Dickerson on defense.
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04-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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Reversion to the mean. Look it up. Cruddy players and teams may be great for a short time and vice versa but over time they go back to their natural places in the pecking order. Brian Doyle hit .438 in the 1978 Series; his lifetime BA is .161. He had a hell of a hot hand in 6 games but went back to being a scrub after that. See also Brosius, Scott.
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04-20-2018, 12:57 PM
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The answer is never go by just one metric, and it's the fool who uses just one. Just as in science (or authentication) where you never go by one type of test. A metric or scientific test often gives useful, and even essential, information, but you should never come to a final conclusion by just the one.
And when doing or looking at precise mathematical or statistical calculations, keep in mind what Economics Nobel Prize winner Wassily Leontief said: "Page after page of academic journals are filled with mathematical formulas leading the reader from sets of more or less plausible but entirely arbitrary assumptions to precisely stated but irrelevant theoretical conclusions." Someone just yesterday asked what was my definition of genius, and I said "Someone who sees the forest not just the trees, where others see just the trees." Some would call that enlightenment. Last edited by drcy; 04-20-2018 at 01:18 PM.
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04-24-2018, 11:42 AM
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WAR stands for WINS ABOVE REPLACEMENT replacement player is a set group of numbers meant to represent a crap player called up fro AAA to replace a legit starter. an average MLB WAR is around 2.0 it is wayyyy too early to put any stock in any stats metrics are the future, they are what the teams use to build and operate their franchises, you can ignore them, hand wave them or wtvr but it comes off as flat eartherish
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