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Old 02-03-2018, 01:50 PM
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As bad as PSA is, SGC is far worse. I tried to submit cards twice in the past year to SGC at shows. First of all, their form is obscenely complicated, as they tried to capture in one form every single permutation of any conceivable order. Stupid. But worst of all was that both times I had some guy trying to help me who seemed like he was just dragged in off the street for $7/hr and was more befuddled that I was about the form. News flash: I'm in your system. Give you people iPads. Let them pull up my account and quickly enter information on an iPad and then let me sign it and then print me out a friggin receipt. It's not rocket science. I just donated stuff at Goodwill and the whole transaction to log it and give me a receipt took about 70 seconds. I've leased cards with less aggravation than trying to submit 1 ticket stub to SGC to encapsulate. It's like the entire technology revolution has somehow passed these guys by.
I agree, the whole complicated paper submission thing for PSA and SGC is brutal. Inevitably what I want to submit I can't find and I need to call in for help. There has to be a way to streamline and simplify this process.

I'm biased towards SGC but I do find I get my submissions back way, way quicker than PSA. PSA does a good job but is just interminably slow and never hits promised benchmarks.
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i rarely agree with steve, but he is spot-on about sgc's presence at shows. i see their table every year at strongsville. they have not been set up on time on the opening day of the show the past 3 years. the last 2 years, when they finally opened for business, there were 2 open boxes of cereal, styrofoam cups of OJ, and half-eaten granola bars on their tables.
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i rarely agree with steve, but he is spot-on about sgc's presence at shows. i see their table every year at strongsville. they have not been set up on time on the opening day of the show the past 3 years. the last 2 years, when they finally opened for business, there were 2 open boxes of cereal, styrofoam cups of OJ, and half-eaten granola bars on their tables.
If it was Cocoa Krispies they can be forgiven.
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I believe SGC has changed their grading standards as well. Usually a haven for PSA qualified cards getting a true grade, now they are much more strict on centering, which I don't remember being the case. My last two psa cards came back two full grades lower at sgc.
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I agree, the whole complicated paper submission thing for PSA and SGC is brutal.
PSA has had an online submission wizard for over a year. It works really well. And it saves regularly so you can go back and update regularly before you decide to print it out and submit.
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