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Old 08-15-2017, 12:19 PM
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No it isn't. Bowman was available in all major markets in 1951. The requirement for a rookie card has always been that it be a national release. Missing 3 of the top 4 or 5 markets is not a national release.
You'll have to show me that in the official rulebook of collecting because I'm not aware any such consensus, although I do respect that point of view. In the meantime, good luck trying to convince the owner of a 1914 Baltimore News Ruth that it isn't his RC

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Old 08-15-2017, 12:36 PM
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In the meantime, good luck trying to convince the owner of a 1915 Baltimore News Ruth that it isn't his RC.
Not to split hairs, but I think that most collectors consider Ruth's 1914 Baltimore News card his pre-rookie since it was issued when he was in the Minor Leagues. Same goes for DiMaggio's 1934 Zeenut card.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:45 PM
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Not to split hairs, but I think that most collectors consider Ruth's 1914 Baltimore News card his pre-rookie since it was issued when he was in the Minor Leagues. Same goes for DiMaggio's 1934 Zeenut card.
Or XRC as Beckett use to refer to them
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Or XRC as Beckett use to refer to them
As applied to major league nationally distributed sets like the Fleer Update Clemens, and Topps Traded Bonds, that was really stupid, in my opinion. And of course the flip side was they were calling second year cards RCs.
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You'll have to show me that in the official rulebook of collecting because I'm not aware any such consensus, although I do respect that point of view. In the meantime, good luck trying to convince the owner of a 1915 Baltimore News Ruth that it isn't his RC.
1915 Sporting News?
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1915 Sporting News?
Yeah, unless you own the Baltimore News
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1915 Sporting News?
1914 Baltimore News

1916 M101-5/4 Felix Mendolsohn/Sporting News
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:13 PM
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1914 baltimore news

1916 m101-5/4 felix mendolsohn/sporting news
1915/16 m101-5 sporting news

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Yeah, there is some definite confusion about the date of that issue, I am sure we have discussed it.
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1915/16 m101-5 sporting news

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That flip is incorrect. Both the M101-5 and M101-4 sets are from 1916.
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Isn't Ted Z. the resident expert on these cards? Hopefully he will check in.
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Maybe the 1947 Bond Bread will get more attention and the price will skyrocket.

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That flip is incorrect. Both the M101-5 and M101-4 sets are from 1916.
Exactly right--same year of issue, although the numbering of the cards differs in some respects.

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As great as the Bond Bread issue is- and thanks Shaun for the useful information- they were a regional issue, pretty much available only in Brooklyn. Some collectors prefer that rookie cards were distributed nationally. It's fodder for debate.

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