Atlantic city convention center to welcome back national sports collectors convention

[perezfan]

There will always be locations that are convenient for some, and not for others. But for Gosh Sake, pick a "Hub City" or at least a place that most people can get to on a direct flight. Or stop calling it "THE NATIONAL"

Very disappointing to those not living specifically in the NE... I'll be taking 2020 off as well.

[Exhibitman]

Atlantic City?

Shit. That last show sucked in every possible way: inconvenient travel, bad accommodations, lousy venue. One of our members got bedbugs in the hotel (Caesars). But at least it was expensive. And at the rate they are closing there may not even be any casinos left in town.

Looks like I will have to spend my summer vacation with my family. Thanks a lot, NSCC...Maybe I'll go to the boxing HOF induction and show in early June instead.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

One of our members got bedbugs in the hotel (Caesars).

Allegedly.

I'll be there, don't care where it is.

[cincyredlegs]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Allegedly.

I'll be there, don't care where it is.

+10000 Jeff.

[vintagesportscollector]

I'd love to see Pittsburgh have it. Large beautiful convention center in a great location, downtown on the river, in the heart of everything. Seems like that would be a fun location that would offer everything people want.

[mrvster]

YES!

I am stoked!

[JollyElm]

In general, I wonder what the monetary tipping point is for collectors. Let's say The National is in a city far away and you decide to get flights and a hotel, etc. For the sake of argument, let's just say your total costs for the trip will be $1,500 and it doesn't put a strain on your finances. You can afford it. When do you look in the mirror and say to yourself, "You know, if I stay home, I can take that 1,500 bucks and use it to buy a seriously nice card instead. I ain't going!!!"???

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

One of our members got bedbugs in the hotel (Caesars). But at least it was expensive.

Bugs in his room didn't seem exclusive to Atlantic City.

[glynparson]

Atlantic City was excellent last year. I will gladly go to AC over Cleveland. Cleveland to me is the turd in the rotation.

[RTK]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Atlantic City was excellent last year. I will gladly go to AC over Cleveland. Cleveland to me is the turd in the rotation.

Cleveland is a rebounding city. We spent a day their last spring on trip to Cooperstown, Rock & Roll HoF, Kimpton Hotel, some good food, walked around the ballpark ( it was before the season). it's more or less centrally located too.

[Snapolit1]

I would think St. Louis would be an awesome spot, but have no idea if they even have a convention center of appropriate size. Cool town though.

This year was my first in Chicago. I didn't realize it was a stone's throw from the airport which is very cool. And there are hotels literally across the street. On the downside, only real choices to grab a decent lunch were in the hotels. At Atlantic City I jumped in a taxi and in 5 minutes went to a nice Italian restaurant. Chicago certainly works well though with the proximity to the airport.

I would think a Los Angeles National would be a huge hit too I'm sure.

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I would think St. Louis would be an awesome spot, but have no idea if they even have a convention center of appropriate size. Cool town though.

This year was my first in Chicago. I didn't realize it was a stone's throw from the airport which is very cool. And there are hotels literally across the street. On the downside, only real choices to grab a decent lunch were in the hotels. At Atlantic City I jumped in a taxi and in 5 minutes went to a nice Italian restaurant. Chicago certainly works well though with the proximity to the airport.

I would think a Los Angeles National would be a huge hit too I'm sure.

The board of control will never go to St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Las Vegas, Houston, Dallas, or anywhere else. They especially will not go to LA.
They control a lot of money from table fees. My understanding is they get the Atlantic City convention center free of charge and are able to keep the bulk of that money. What they are doing with it is a mystery cloaked in double secret riddle. If I am wrong about that feel free to correct me, it won't hurt my feelings. I was a Navy CPO and a High School Principal for 20 years, so I don't have any feelings.

[buymycards]

[QUOTE=Snapolit1;1686695] And there are hotels literally across the street. On the downside, only real choices to grab a decent lunch were in the hotels. At Atlantic City I jumped in a taxi and in 5 minutes went to a nice Italian restaurant. Chicago certainly works well though with the proximity to the airport.

Hey Steve, Uber can have you at any one of a couple of dozen great lunch spots within a 5 minute drive of the Convention Center in Chicago.

Rick

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Atlantic City was excellent last year. I will gladly go to AC over Cleveland. Cleveland to me is the turd in the rotation.

Cleveland is great. Atlantic City was very good. Chicago is good. I would like to see some effort made to add Dallas, Denver, St. Louis, and Kansas City to the list of cities. It doesn't look like that is happening, and the west coast is likely out as well. People can vote, but the current board has all the power and they really don't care what the exhibitors want. I'm getting too old to worry about much beyond 2019, but I would love to see them go out on a limb and schedule a National somewhere other than the above three. Not sure what happened with Baltimore either, it was an excellent show, a great place to visit.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by perezfan

There will always be locations that are convenient for some, and not for others. But for Gosh Sake, pick a "Hub City" or at least a place that most people can get to on a direct flight. Or stop calling it "THE NATIONAL"

Very disappointing to those not living specifically in the NE... I'll be taking 2020 off as well.

Oh, god, we're back to this. . . . .

Yeah, AC is a two hour drive from the largest population center in the US. Simply impossible to get to.

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Oh, god, we're back to this. . . . .

Yeah, AC is a two hour drive from the largest population center in the US. Simply impossible to get to.

Exactly. A 2 hr drive. You can understand how that's not convenient for anyone who has to first board a plane to get to The East Coast.

If the National were in any one of the East's great cities serviced by a major airport, I bet no one would gripe.

[A2000]

No love for the west coast

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Exactly. A 2 hr drive. You can understand how that's not convenient for anyone who has to first board a plane to get to The East Coast.

If the National were in any one of the East's great cities serviced by a major airport, I bet no one would gripe.

If it was in New York City plenty of people would gripe just as loud. I'm sure of it.

The board has been full of stories about people driving to this years National. Sure many people from the Midwest drove long distances to get there.

Philadelphia is a fairly large airport and that's 40 minutes closer than NY. People fly into Philly every day to gamble in Atlantic City.

My understanding is the dealers vote for the locations, so they idea that Atlantic City is boycotted by large numbers of people obviously makes no sense. Sure the leading auction houses in the business, many of which are based in NJ or have offices in NYC, are pretty happy.

[oldjudge]

If you have to fly to the National this is a horrible choice. I will skip AC again and will skip all future AC Nationals.

[pokerplyr80]

I've never thought about flying into Atlantic city and didn't understand what all the fuss was about. Out of curiosity I just looked into flights out of OC or LA. Looks like the best option is a flight into Philly, followed by a 75 mile drive. Beyond ridiculous for a national convention many people fly in for in my opinion. I doubt I will be going to that one, unless we make a trip out of it to see some friends or family in the NYC or DC area.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Exactly. A 2 hr drive. You can understand how that's not convenient for anyone who has to first board a plane to get to The East Coast.

If the National were in any one of the East's great cities serviced by a major airport, I bet no one would gripe.

One hour from Philly. Not great but better than two+ from NYC.

Tom C

[judsonhamlin]

In all fairness, the Javits Center in midtown can be two hours from JFK when the stars fail to align

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by perezfan

There will always be locations that are convenient for some, and not for others. But for Gosh Sake, pick a "Hub City" or at least a place that most people can get to on a direct flight. Or stop calling it "THE NATIONAL"

Very disappointing to those not living specifically in the NE... I'll be taking 2020 off as well.

This was actually what doomed AC as an experiment from the start. People like to blame the expansion of gambling, the internet and a million other things, but if the casino owners had ever had an OUNCE of foresight they could've turned AC into Vegas with a beach by banding together and building a true international airport in the 1970's. This shortsightedness will continue to be the thorn in the side of EVER turning AC into what it should've been, and now it's probably too late.