Atlantic city convention center to welcome back national sports collectors convention

[Rich Klein]

AC: Great to drive to from the East Coast, terrible to fly to from DFW or anywhere else

Rich

[tedzan]

Correct me if I am wrong....Derek Jeter will most likely be inducted into the HOF in 2020.

Cooperstown is already predicting 100,000+ will be there in 2020 for this event.

The HOF date is usually set for the last weekend of July.

Whoever set the National date for the weekend of July 29 thru August 2 is not too smart.


TED Z
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[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Correct me if I am wrong....Derek Jeter will most likely be inducted into the HOF in 2020.

Cooperstown is already predicting 100,000+ will be there in 2020 for this event.

The HOF date is usually set for the last weekend of July.

Whoever set the National date for the weekend of July 29 thru August 2 is not too smart.


TED Z
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Unless Jeter appears one day to sign autographs. . . . . . .

[tedzan]

For most of the 1980's and 1990's, the National has been scheduled the week following the HOF weekend. In recent years (including this year),
the National has conflicted with the HOF weekend in Cooperstown.

In my opinion, this is really dumb scheduling. As, I have set-up at the Cooperstown BB card Show since 1986. Obviously, I missed it this year.

In any event, it's my problem. Does anyone else here feel that the National scheduling dudes should take into consideration the HOF event ?


TED Z
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[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by tedzan

In any event, it's my problem. Does anyone else here feel that the National scheduling dudes should take into consideration the HOF event ?


TED Z
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they'd be foolish not to.

[basesareempty]

If the powers to be insist on having the National late July-early August they are going to conflict with either Cooperstown or Canton. I guess they figure it hurts the bottom line less conflicting with the BB HOF Induction.

[Rich Klein]

To defend the National promoters and their scheduling issues, in reality they have about a 4-6 week period to run the show depending on how July 4th falls.

I know in Texas, we begin school on August 21st or so which is and was a shock to me who never began school in the NY area until after Labor Day.

So using that, we have about a 6 week period in which the show can be run to deal with school issues.

And then dealing with what various venues have available and does it fit the National's needs, does limit them quite a bit.

So, there are going to be conflicts no matter what anyone does and that decision on where and when is something above our pay grade.

Personally, there are three areas I think have been ideal for the National: Anaheim, Chicago and Baltimore. Another possibility is St. Louis

All 3 have tons of hotel rooms near the show, All 3 have accessible transportation to and from and All 3 have enough things to do in the area to make the social events fun. If we just rotated between these three areas, I'd be a happy man. (of course, I'd be happier if we did not have hard concrete floors but that is another issue)

Regards
Rich

[lrspaulp]

Originally Posted by tedzan

For most of the 1980's and 1990's, the National has been scheduled the week following the HOF weekend. In recent years (including this year),
the National has conflicted with the HOF weekend in Cooperstown.

In my opinion, this is really dumb scheduling. As, I have set-up at the Cooperstown BB card Show since 1986. Obviously, I missed it this year.

In any event, it's my problem. Does anyone else here feel that the National scheduling dudes should take into consideration the HOF event ?


TED Z
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I agree with you 100% Ted. I've been going to Cooperstown induction weekend for close to 20 years. Last year was my first National and I loved it. But if they are on the same week I will be going to Cooperstown. It's just stupid. In fact Dale Murphy actually commented to me last Saturday about the scheduling as he signed a piece for me because Reggie Jackson is also on it and he wasn't in Cooperstown but at the National.

[Al C.risafulli]

My opinion about Atlantic City:

Not as good as Chicago or Baltimore, better than Cleveland.

Plus it's nice to be the "home team" once in a while. I'll take it.

-Al

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

My opinion about Atlantic City:

Not as good as Chicago or Baltimore, better than Cleveland.

Plus it's nice to be the "home team" once in a while. I'll take it.

-Al

Indeed. Selfishly this works out great for me.

Tom C

[Marchillo]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Correct me if I am wrong....Derek Jeter will most likely be inducted into the HOF in 2020.

Cooperstown is already predicting 100,000+ will be there in 2020 for this event.

The HOF date is usually set for the last weekend of July.

Whoever set the National date for the weekend of July 29 thru August 2 is not too smart.


TED Z
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I was at the Cooperstown Card show. Did some wheeling and dealing. Prices were better than the shops for sure. A lot of good peeps in there. Plus the weather was mild so it didn't feel like an oven in there this year!

[lrspaulp]

Originally Posted by Marchillo

I was at the Cooperstown Card show. Did some wheeling and dealing. Prices were better than the shops for sure. A lot of good peeps in there. Plus the weather was mild so it didn't feel like an oven in there this year!

Stephen, was there Saturday. Great show and one of my highlights of the year.

[Gmrson]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

AC: Great to drive to from the East Coast, terrible to fly to from DFW or anywhere else, except Detroit

Rich

Fixed that for you. It was smooth for me last year although that airport terminal is smaller than the show entrance area in Chicago.

Originally Posted by rats60

I heard there was a dealer petition to not go back to Atlantic City. I wonder if there will be several dealers taking a break.

This is true, the petition came around to where I was with only a couple signatures.

I also talked to someone who said they talked to a National person regarding locations and was told that the Rock Showplace Convention Center in the suburbs of Detroit is 50k sq. ft. too small, and that St. Louis had too much crime in the area of their center, FWIW.

[tbob]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

AC: Great to drive to from the East Coast, terrible to fly to from DFW or anywhere else

Rich

Amen Rich. Chalk me up as one of those Southerners who will be in Cleveland in 2018, Chicago in 2019 but not Atlantic City in 2020, inaccessibility of flights being the major, but not only, reason.

[Snapolit1]

Just picked a random day next month to see what the flight options are from Dallas to Philadelphia on Expedia. 12 direct flights and 56 with a connection. Yeah I can see why it's next to impossible to get a flight within striking distance of Atlantic City. I usually say if I don't have at least 100 flight options a day a place is not accessible.

3 direct round trips Dallas to Cleveland that day.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Just picked a random day next month to see what the flight options are from Dallas to Philadelphia on Expedia. 12 direct flights and 56 with a connection. Yeah I can see why it's next to impossible to get a flight within striking distance of Atlantic City. I usually say if I don't have at least 100 flight options a day a place is not accessible.

3 direct round trips Dallas to Cleveland that day.

Cleveland Airport to IX Center 7 minutes
Philadelphia Airport to Atlantic City CC 96 minutes

[Yankees1964]

I live in Northeast PA so I am glad it will be back here, however Philly is a much better choice or even Secaucus NJ would have been a good option. I guess the free space in AC pays for it. I was really happy last year.

[Snapolit1]

True.

Soon someone can bring up the fact that it's a really really dangerous place too. That was a never ending theme in 2016. Unlike Chicago and Cleveland of course.

[AddieJoss]

AC was great and stoked for it again.

[jimtigers65]

All joking aside do you think a National will ever be held on the west coast?