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Old 01-31-2017, 07:15 AM
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Did you not read my posts? I never once accused Steve of anything. Just because he is an "honest" guy doesn't mean he cant make mistakes. The boxes I bought off eBay were more suspect to the one I got direct from BBC exchange. I know for a fact the 89 upper deck bb were resEaled. They were my favorite packs to open as a kid. The packs I got off eBay were not even sealed the same way and some very barely sealed at all. The seller was even accused of resealing packs by other members but I didn't read all the feedback before purchasing cuz his overall feedback was high. If any of you wanna pm me I will be more than happy to tell you the seller to see for yourself. I almost wanna buy another box and send a pack to each of you guys that doubt me.

I didn't make this post to ruin Steves business....but you Guys have to agree this hobby is very corrupt. Look at Bill Mastro and James Spence. I am not putting Steve in this category but am saying that sellers on eBay are tampering with boxes sealed by BBC exchange. The boxes are just shrink wrapped. It's not hard to reseal plastic. The packs of 82 topps FB have glue on them not wax. The glue is on the opposite side of the gum. So I had cards damaged by glue and with gum. I will be more than happy to send any of you guys some of the cards damaged with glue just so you can see.

Again, quit thinking I'm accusing Steve of doing any of this. I am saying he either made a mistake authenticating the packs or other people are tampering with them. Does Steve really sit and go thru every single pack in every box before authenticating them? If so what's the theory as to why every single good cArd in all 3 boxes had issues???
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Old 01-31-2017, 08:37 AM
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I have known Steve for nearly 30 years and he and his staff are as good as they come.

However, there is even a different issue when it comes to 1989 Upper Deck packs. Because so many packs were sold, there were many unscrupulous dealers who would know how to search those packs (not in a way you would expect) and could put packs into a box without a collector having any chance for a Griffey.

Because of that, there is no way for Steve, or anyone else to know, if the packs were placed back into a box and purported to be unopened when in fact the key pull was already missing.

So. unless your 1989 box is coming from an previously unopened case, frankly anything is possible with 1989 Upper Deck and caution is urged at all times.

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Old 01-31-2017, 10:37 AM
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Rich,
The op, whatever his name is, said that the 89 Upper Deck packs were opened and resealed. He also mentioned that he pulled two Griffeys but both were damaged. I would think it would be very difficult to reseal the Upper Deck foil packs.

Whatever his name is never answered my question about contacting BBCE before posting here.

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Whatever his name is never answered my question about contacting BBCE before posting here.

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His name is in the second post.

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Old 02-01-2017, 09:13 AM
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His name is in the second post.

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I must be missing it. I don't see his name.
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Old 02-11-2017, 12:20 AM
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I've bought thousands of dollars of boxes from Steve, but I always buy FASC. The concern I've always had about buying wrapped boxes second hand is that anyone can replicate Steve's shrink wrap and even get his logo printed on it. Furthermore, how hard would it be to make stickers like what's used on the bottoms? The hologram he now uses ads maybe a little more security, but honestly, even those can be easily replicated.
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Old 02-11-2017, 06:54 AM
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I've bought thousands of dollars of boxes from Steve, but I always buy FASC.
Can't go wrong with FASC. If Steve says they're FASC, they must be FASC.

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I must be missing it. I don't see his name.
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Read all of the 2nd post in this thread. Then let me know....
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Old 02-11-2017, 08:51 AM
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Read all of the 2nd post in this thread. Then let me know....
OOPS, Sorry, I was looking at the OP's second post. Thanks
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Did you not read my posts? I never once accused Steve of anything. Just because he is an "honest" guy doesn't mean he cant make mistakes. The boxes I bought off eBay were more suspect to the one I got direct from BBC exchange. I know for a fact the 89 upper deck bb were resEaled. They were my favorite packs to open as a kid. The packs I got off eBay were not even sealed the same way and some very barely sealed at all. The seller was even accused of resealing packs by other members but I didn't read all the feedback before purchasing cuz his overall feedback was high. If any of you wanna pm me I will be more than happy to tell you the seller to see for yourself. I almost wanna buy another box and send a pack to each of you guys that doubt me.

I didn't make this post to ruin Steves business....but you Guys have to agree this hobby is very corrupt. Look at Bill Mastro and James Spence. I am not putting Steve in this category but am saying that sellers on eBay are tampering with boxes sealed by BBC exchange. The boxes are just shrink wrapped. It's not hard to reseal plastic. The packs of 82 topps FB have glue on them not wax. The glue is on the opposite side of the gum. So I had cards damaged by glue and with gum. I will be more than happy to send any of you guys some of the cards damaged with glue just so you can see.

Again, quit thinking I'm accusing Steve of doing any of this. I am saying he either made a mistake authenticating the packs or other people are tampering with them. Does Steve really sit and go thru every single pack in every box before authenticating them? If so what's the theory as to why every single good cArd in all 3 boxes had issues???
You started out by saying, "Do you guys trust BBC exchange to buy sealed boxes from? How do you know they are not rewrapping wax packs?" To me that doesn't sound like someone claiming he made an innocent mistake.
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Old 01-31-2017, 11:48 AM
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You started out by saying, "Do you guys trust BBC exchange to buy sealed boxes from? How do you know they are not rewrapping wax packs?" To me that doesn't sound like someone claiming he made an innocent mistake.
Don't forget the title of the thread, Issues with BBC exchange.
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