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Old 01-26-2017, 01:33 PM
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I bought two boxes of 78 topps football from them in the late 90s and managed to not pull a Dorsett or Payton. Swore them off for life.
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I have known Steve Hart from Baseball Card Exchange for a very long time and I have only found him to be nothing but honest and accurate in all of his business dealings. In fact Mark's post above is the first time I have heard anyone say anything negative about Steve.

Cards coming out of unopened packs with dinged corners is a given. The older the issue the better chance that is what is going to happen and says nothing about the assessment Steve does to provide an opinion on the authenticity or originality of a pack. A flimsy box and wax wrapper are the only thing protecting a sharp corner. Over time, corners lose that battle.

If Mark wants pristine rookies from these issues it would be better for him to seek those in SGC or PSA holders in the grade he wants. Without seeing the packs that he opened I cannot speak to glue however I highly doubt Steve would miss glue on a pack and stake his reputation on something so obvious. And as for wax or gum on cards, that is expected if those cards were closest to the seal or where the gum is placed in the pack.

It is rarely financially viable to buy an unopened box or pack with the intent of opening it. The value in unopened is leaving them that way.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:30 PM
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I bought two boxes of 78 topps football from them in the late 90s and managed to not pull a Dorsett or Payton. Swore them off for life.
528 cards in the set. How many in a box, 360? I would bet there is nothing unusual statistically about what happened to you.

About the last person in this hobby I would suspect of untoward dealings is Steve Hart. If he's bad, might as well give up.
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Yeah, no. 36 packs, 14 cards per pack. 504 cards times 2. 1008 cards total. No Terry Bradshaw either.



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528 cards in the set. How many in a box, 360? I would bet there is nothing unusual statistically about what happened to you.

About the last person in this hobby I would suspect of untoward dealings is Steve Hart. If he's bad, might as well give up.

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Awfully tough to reseal 89 UD packs
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Awfully tough to reseal 89 UD packs
I was thinking the same thing. I remember opening 1989 Upper Deck and
had some messed up cards from time to time with dings or even a crease
here and there. I even got the same player sometimes back to back or
in the same pack. Not sure how or why you would reseal a foil pack.
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I have never bought from them but we had a former member that got a ton of resealed stuff past Steve. He even bragged about how easy it was.
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No issues with bbexchange. I think Steve Hart is one of the few honest folks in the buisness...
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I have never bought from them but we had a former member that got a ton of resealed stuff past Steve. He even bragged about how easy it was.
I think it's a bit unfair to Steve to post an anonymous claim like that, personally.
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http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...pened-wax-box/

This says 360, but in any event, what's your theory, that Steve opened every pack to look for third year Paytons and Dorsett rookies and 8th year Bradshaws, pulled them, and then resealed them all?
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http://www.psacard.com/articles/arti...king-down-tony


This says 14 per pack and that's what I remember. My theory is they got bad boxes from a source, didn't notice it and sold them. I was just responding to the op asking if anyone else was ever unhappy with a deal they got. Many of the wax seals were loose and the card sequence was crazy weird even for late 70s topps. I only remember because I had them until recently kept in order from the original purchase. It's just my one experience.

Btw no second year largent either.

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How many Fred Deans?
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How many Fred Deans?
Don't remember but I got like 6 stallworths which in the late 90s did not have much value but later became valuable. I got them for Christmas when I was 17.


Like I said, I never thought they sold bad stuff knowingly, but that they got bad stuff and without knowing passed in on... this was 19 years ago.

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