PWCC Auction Yet Again

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Yes if you consider consignors bidding on their own items to be loyalty

They do seem to be very loyal bidders.

[Snapolit1]

I have a hard time recalling my last eBay bid for an important card that wasn't PWCC. I'm sure if someone pulled my history with them they'd say it's suspicious too.

Just pulled down the one card I wanted more than anything else out there. 10 day auction and I'm not going to go to bed wondering if some guy in Californoa who works nights is going to beat me to it at 3:45 am. Yes. Thank you PWCC.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I have a hard time recalling my last eBay bid for an important card that wasn't PWCC. I'm sure if someone pulled my history with them they'd say it's suspicious too.

Just pulled down the one card I wanted more than anything else out there. 10 day auction and I'm not going to go to bed wondering if some guy in Californoa who works nights is going to beat me to it at 3:45 am. Yes. Thank you PWCC.

My history would show similar results. A couple of bids with Sean and maybe Probstein, but no one else else comes close to putting the quality and quantity of high end cards up for auction as pwcc. I bet my profile shows 80-90% with him. And I don't shill my own consignments.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

My history would show similar results. A couple of bids with Sean and maybe Probstein, but no one else else comes close to putting the quality and quantity of high end cards up for auction as pwcc. I bet my profile shows 80-90% with him. And I don't shill my own consignments.

Cause no one else gets the money they do. It's a catch-22.

[Tennis13]

So I had my eye on a few cards to understand the market, but not to buy. The last 30 seconds of this auction were insane:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/401148338576?_mwBanner=1

Is this "normal" for high grade cards or was this a one-off where two guys really wanted it?

[Snapolit1]

Pretty normal pattern. Two or three folks battling it out at the end. Many of these high end cards double in bid in last minute. Most people figure why bother a constant battle for days, just slug it out in the 15th round. Rope a dope before that.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by bnorth

They do seem to be very loyal bidders.

And the price is the price! Not 19.5% more.

Frankly, it's refreshing.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

And the price is the price! Not 19.5% more.

Frankly, it's refreshing.

Price is the price for buyers...not for the seller who consigned.....selling price is going to be lower than whatever someone pays for it one ebay

however price is the price usually for sellers at other auctions houses with the auction house taking the extra 19.5 for whatever percent..

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Price is the price for buyers...not for the seller who consigned.....selling price is going to be lower than whatever someone pays for it one ebay

however price is the price usually for sellers at other auctions houses with the auction house taking the extra 19.5 for whatever percent..

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[ksabet]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

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Glad I wasnt the only one completely confused by that sentence

[ksabet]

Frankly if you've been on this board long enough and you don't heed the warnings in regards to certain sellers than you deserve everything you get.

I am not willing to bid on my own items therefore I would not do as well in PWCC.

Its really baffling to me that people are impressed with their prices.


Watch a movie called "Exit Through The Gift Shop". A fantastic doc that eventually shows how perception and public ignorance are a bad mixture when purchasing vanity items.

[Snapolit1]

Price wise I would take their high end items vs. same items selling at nearly all of the major auction houses (+18.5%). Any day of the week. And I don't need to be up to 4 am to win it. Want to talk games, I'll talk what goes on at some of these AHs.

PWCC also has no conceivable way to know what my max bid is. I also like that. A lot. That's fraud protection of the highest order.

I really hope PWCC's rapid ascendancy is causing some of these other guys to reevaluate their business model. Start by closing auctions 15 minutes after no one bids - on that item. Show some respect for your customers.
Maybe I'm peeing in the wind. All I know is that Brent & Co. are currently getting about 75% of my card budget.

[balltrash]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Frankly if you've been on this board long enough and you don't heed the warnings in regards to certain sellers than you deserve everything you get.

I am not willing to bid on my own items therefore I would not do as well in PWCC.

Its really baffling to me that people are impressed with their prices.


Watch a movie called "Exit Through The Gift Shop". A fantastic doc that eventually shows how perception and public ignorance are a bad mixture when purchasing vanity items.

I just had two items end last night which I consigned to PWCC. One was low dollar and brought and half of what I'd been hoping for. The other was a higher end complete set which brought nearly $2,000 more than I had expected. I am extremely impressed with that price and now firmly believe that Brent and Co have a dedicated following that are willing to ante up and pay for a comfort level and professionalism that can not otherwise be found on ebay.

Do people shill their material? Undoubtedly. Does it occur as frequently as it is made out to? I doubt that. I didn't do it.

Quality material sells itself. Those who want it are discerning by nature and I am not at all surprised they would choose to work with one ebay seller over others whom remain essentially anonymous. I would wager that even the most prominent board members here would be unknown to a significant number of world class collectors who never stumble upon this forum. It is far more likely that they find PWCC on ebay than net54baseball.com. No knock on net54, just pointing out how much bigger the pool of buyers is than any of us could grasp.