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Old 07-15-2016, 08:12 PM
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Frankly if you've been on this board long enough and you don't heed the warnings in regards to certain sellers than you deserve everything you get.

I am not willing to bid on my own items therefore I would not do as well in PWCC.

Its really baffling to me that people are impressed with their prices.


Watch a movie called "Exit Through The Gift Shop". A fantastic doc that eventually shows how perception and public ignorance are a bad mixture when purchasing vanity items.
I just had two items end last night which I consigned to PWCC. One was low dollar and brought and half of what I'd been hoping for. The other was a higher end complete set which brought nearly $2,000 more than I had expected. I am extremely impressed with that price and now firmly believe that Brent and Co have a dedicated following that are willing to ante up and pay for a comfort level and professionalism that can not otherwise be found on ebay.

Do people shill their material? Undoubtedly. Does it occur as frequently as it is made out to? I doubt that. I didn't do it.

Quality material sells itself. Those who want it are discerning by nature and I am not at all surprised they would choose to work with one ebay seller over others whom remain essentially anonymous. I would wager that even the most prominent board members here would be unknown to a significant number of world class collectors who never stumble upon this forum. It is far more likely that they find PWCC on ebay than net54baseball.com. No knock on net54, just pointing out how much bigger the pool of buyers is than any of us could grasp.

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Old 07-15-2016, 08:58 PM
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I just had two items end last night which I consigned to PWCC. One was low dollar and brought and half of what I'd been hoping for. The other was a higher end complete set which brought nearly $2,000 more than I had expected. I am extremely impressed with that price and now firmly believe that Brent and Co have a dedicated following that are willing to ante up and pay for a comfort level and professionalism that can not otherwise be found on ebay.

Do people shill their material? Undoubtedly. Does it occur as frequently as it is made out to? I doubt that. I didn't do it.

Quality material sells itself. Those who want it are discerning by nature and I am not at all surprised they would choose to work with one ebay seller over others whom remain essentially anonymous. I would wager that even the most prominent board members here would be unknown to a significant number of world class collectors who never stumble upon this forum. It is far more likely that they find PWCC on ebay than net54baseball.com. No knock on net54, just pointing out how much bigger the pool of buyers is than any of us could grasp.
Glad that worked for you. And good sir it has been proven that yes it is very rampant.

Brent's like a guru he's got you guys hooked. Like the cult of pwcc.


Unfortunately his auctions are creating price points that shouldn't be due to card owners driving up prices on their own cards. I have seen the unnatural jump since his store became popular.

Hey use pwcc all you want, again it's your money. Dont lose sleep over it...we know Mr. Huigens doesn't.
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Old 07-15-2016, 11:57 PM
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I also consigned an item that outsold my expectations, realizing well over the $2000 I was hoping for. I had listed it here on Net54 for $1995 without getting even a sniff of interest. Maybe Brent's ads, client emails, broker reputation, etc. have more to do with those high bids he gets than shill bidding after all. I certainly didn't shill my own item and still wound up with a result that was better than expected.
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Old 07-16-2016, 06:40 AM
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I also consigned an item that outsold my expectations, realizing well over the $2000 I was hoping for. I had listed it here on Net54 for $1995 without getting even a sniff of interest. Maybe Brent's ads, client emails, broker reputation, etc. have more to do with those high bids he gets than shill bidding after all. I certainly didn't shill my own item and still wound up with a result that was better than expected.
Same thing here. I listed 2 different cards on the BST here several months back and only received low ball offers. I sent those 2 cards into PWCC and both cards not only sold for more than I was asking on the BST, but I cleared more than I was asking even after the PWCC fees came out. I did not bid on my lots, I didn't have any friends or family members or acquaintances bid on my lots. I also never even advertised my cards were listed with PWCC like some others do. Only complaint I really had is how long it took to get paid.
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Old 07-16-2016, 06:49 AM
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Same thing here. I listed 2 different cards on the BST here several months back and only received low ball offers. I sent those 2 cards into PWCC and both cards not only sold for more than I was asking on the BST, but I cleared more than I was asking even after the PWCC fees came out. I did not bid on my lots, I didn't have any friends or family members or acquaintances bid on my lots. I also never even advertised my cards were listed with PWCC like some others do. Only complaint I really had is how long it took to get paid.
Hey I'm really glad for you guys. I just would take a little less and know that my stuff was being sold by an ethically responsible company.

I'll stick with the few auctions I trust.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:29 AM
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Ok, if you don't want to do business with these guys fine. No need to disparage people who do as mindless idiots. There are some really nice AHs (love of the game and mile high quickly come to mind) and others that I wouldn't trust as far as I can throw them. I did a quick sample last night for sh*ts and giggles of recent high end Ruth Goudey sales and its abundantly clear that PWCC's prices are no higher and in many many cases lower that the leading AHs. The pages of hyperbole these guys crank out clearly work. If you want to think otherwise that's your prerogative.
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Ok, if you don't want to do business with these guys fine. No need to disparage people who do as mindless idiots. There are some really nice AHs (love of the game and mile high quickly come to mind) and others that I wouldn't trust as far as I can throw them. I did a quick sample last night for sh*ts and giggles of recent high end Ruth Goudey sales and its abundantly clear that PWCC's prices are no higher and in many many cases lower that the leading AHs. The pages of hyperbole these guys crank out clearly work. If you want to think otherwise that's your prerogative.
I really didn't mean to disparage anyone.

These are the joys of a free market.

Compared to the prices we will run into at the national, PWCC might be a bargain.
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