PWCC Auction Yet Again

[ksabet]

Frankly if you've been on this board long enough and you don't heed the warnings in regards to certain sellers than you deserve everything you get.

I am not willing to bid on my own items therefore I would not do as well in PWCC.

Its really baffling to me that people are impressed with their prices.


Watch a movie called "Exit Through The Gift Shop". A fantastic doc that eventually shows how perception and public ignorance are a bad mixture when purchasing vanity items.

[Snapolit1]

Price wise I would take their high end items vs. same items selling at nearly all of the major auction houses (+18.5%). Any day of the week. And I don't need to be up to 4 am to win it. Want to talk games, I'll talk what goes on at some of these AHs.

PWCC also has no conceivable way to know what my max bid is. I also like that. A lot. That's fraud protection of the highest order.

I really hope PWCC's rapid ascendancy is causing some of these other guys to reevaluate their business model. Start by closing auctions 15 minutes after no one bids - on that item. Show some respect for your customers.
Maybe I'm peeing in the wind. All I know is that Brent & Co. are currently getting about 75% of my card budget.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

PWCC also has no conceivable way to know what my max bid is. I also like that. A lot. That's fraud protection of the highest order.

Wow the problem is worse than I thought. . Smh

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Price wise I would take their high end items vs. same items selling at nearly all of the major auction houses (+18.5%). Any day of the week. And I don't need to be up to 4 am to win it. Want to talk games, I'll talk what goes on at some of these AHs.

PWCC also has no conceivable way to know what my max bid is. I also like that. A lot. That's fraud protection of the highest order.

I really hope PWCC's rapid ascendancy is causing some of these other guys to reevaluate their business model. Start by closing auctions 15 minutes after no one bids - on that item. Show some respect for your customers.
Maybe I'm peeing in the wind. All I know is that Brent & Co. are currently getting about 75% of my card budget.

++Exactly. I guess if you want to donate your time to AH's, you can go that route. IMO, it's just plain rude to expect me to watch your auction all night. This is a hobby, not a full time job for me.

Not being able to snipe at the AH is the nail in the coffin for me. I also have a high percentage of bids at PWCC, but as I've said in the past, that statistic has no relevance to me for determining shilling.

[Touch'EmAll]

As long as reputable seller, you stick to your highest price you can comfortably afford, and within your value range, then I don't see why you care if its through PWCC, another traditional auction house, or other lesser auction. Your highest bid you are willing to pay is your highest bid you are willing to pay. Do not pay more just because its PWCC - have some self restraint. Let other people pay crazy high prices - be ok with that - because it could mean your stuff you do own is now worth more than it used to be.

[Yoda]

As a bit of a side bar, just received my first batch in the mail of PWCC cards won and as usual the speed of the shipment and quality of packing is outstanding. I know payment by Pay Pal expedites the whole AH process but, given the huge volume of cards they deal with, their shipping department seems to be a model of efficiency.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Yoda

As a bit of a side bar, just received my first batch in the mail of PWCC cards won and as usual the speed of the shipment and quality of packing is outstanding. I know payment by Pay Pal expedites the whole AH process but, given the huge volume of cards they deal with, their shipping department seems to be a model of efficiency.

I ship cards quickly too. That's easy to do on Ebay. Here here for the small seller!

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Yoda

As a bit of a side bar, just received my first batch in the mail of PWCC cards won and as usual the speed of the shipment and quality of packing is outstanding. I know payment by Pay Pal expedites the whole AH process but, given the huge volume of cards they deal with, their shipping department seems to be a model of efficiency.

On a side note...do you work for PWCC?

Ive never seen someone start so many laudatory posts on one central subject.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by ksabet

On a side note...do you work for PWCC?

Ive never seen someone start so many laudatory posts on one central subject.

On a side note...do you work for an auction house.

I've never seen someone start so many derogatory posts one one central subject.


James

[balltrash]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Frankly if you've been on this board long enough and you don't heed the warnings in regards to certain sellers than you deserve everything you get.

I am not willing to bid on my own items therefore I would not do as well in PWCC.

Its really baffling to me that people are impressed with their prices.


Watch a movie called "Exit Through The Gift Shop". A fantastic doc that eventually shows how perception and public ignorance are a bad mixture when purchasing vanity items.

I just had two items end last night which I consigned to PWCC. One was low dollar and brought and half of what I'd been hoping for. The other was a higher end complete set which brought nearly $2,000 more than I had expected. I am extremely impressed with that price and now firmly believe that Brent and Co have a dedicated following that are willing to ante up and pay for a comfort level and professionalism that can not otherwise be found on ebay.

Do people shill their material? Undoubtedly. Does it occur as frequently as it is made out to? I doubt that. I didn't do it.

Quality material sells itself. Those who want it are discerning by nature and I am not at all surprised they would choose to work with one ebay seller over others whom remain essentially anonymous. I would wager that even the most prominent board members here would be unknown to a significant number of world class collectors who never stumble upon this forum. It is far more likely that they find PWCC on ebay than net54baseball.com. No knock on net54, just pointing out how much bigger the pool of buyers is than any of us could grasp.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by balltrash

I just had two items end last night which I consigned to PWCC. One was low dollar and brought and half of what I'd been hoping for. The other was a higher end complete set which brought nearly $2,000 more than I had expected. I am extremely impressed with that price and now firmly believe that Brent and Co have a dedicated following that are willing to ante up and pay for a comfort level and professionalism that can not otherwise be found on ebay.

Do people shill their material? Undoubtedly. Does it occur as frequently as it is made out to? I doubt that. I didn't do it.

Quality material sells itself. Those who want it are discerning by nature and I am not at all surprised they would choose to work with one ebay seller over others whom remain essentially anonymous. I would wager that even the most prominent board members here would be unknown to a significant number of world class collectors who never stumble upon this forum. It is far more likely that they find PWCC on ebay than net54baseball.com. No knock on net54, just pointing out how much bigger the pool of buyers is than any of us could grasp.

Glad that worked for you. And good sir it has been proven that yes it is very rampant.

Brent's like a guru he's got you guys hooked. Like the cult of pwcc.


Unfortunately his auctions are creating price points that shouldn't be due to card owners driving up prices on their own cards. I have seen the unnatural jump since his store became popular.

Hey use pwcc all you want, again it's your money. Dont lose sleep over it...we know Mr. Huigens doesn't.

[robw1959]

I also consigned an item that outsold my expectations, realizing well over the $2000 I was hoping for. I had listed it here on Net54 for $1995 without getting even a sniff of interest. Maybe Brent's ads, client emails, broker reputation, etc. have more to do with those high bids he gets than shill bidding after all. I certainly didn't shill my own item and still wound up with a result that was better than expected.

[jmb]

Originally Posted by robw1959

I also consigned an item that outsold my expectations, realizing well over the $2000 I was hoping for. I had listed it here on Net54 for $1995 without getting even a sniff of interest. Maybe Brent's ads, client emails, broker reputation, etc. have more to do with those high bids he gets than shill bidding after all. I certainly didn't shill my own item and still wound up with a result that was better than expected.

Same thing here. I listed 2 different cards on the BST here several months back and only received low ball offers. I sent those 2 cards into PWCC and both cards not only sold for more than I was asking on the BST, but I cleared more than I was asking even after the PWCC fees came out. I did not bid on my lots, I didn't have any friends or family members or acquaintances bid on my lots. I also never even advertised my cards were listed with PWCC like some others do. Only complaint I really had is how long it took to get paid.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by jmb

Same thing here. I listed 2 different cards on the BST here several months back and only received low ball offers. I sent those 2 cards into PWCC and both cards not only sold for more than I was asking on the BST, but I cleared more than I was asking even after the PWCC fees came out. I did not bid on my lots, I didn't have any friends or family members or acquaintances bid on my lots. I also never even advertised my cards were listed with PWCC like some others do. Only complaint I really had is how long it took to get paid.

Hey I'm really glad for you guys. I just would take a little less and know that my stuff was being sold by an ethically responsible company.

I'll stick with the few auctions I trust.

[Snapolit1]

Ok, if you don't want to do business with these guys fine. No need to disparage people who do as mindless idiots. There are some really nice AHs (love of the game and mile high quickly come to mind) and others that I wouldn't trust as far as I can throw them. I did a quick sample last night for sh*ts and giggles of recent high end Ruth Goudey sales and its abundantly clear that PWCC's prices are no higher and in many many cases lower that the leading AHs. The pages of hyperbole these guys crank out clearly work. If you want to think otherwise that's your prerogative.