Bryce Harper

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You could well be right that that's the one he had in mind. In any event, again, it seems a long way from that song to some of the rap gems.

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disgust for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

I do have kids and It makes me nervous about taking them to the Ballpark in Arlington this summer if that's the kind of stuff they play.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

Next thing you know they'll start playing Steely Dan.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Next thing you know they'll start playing Steely Dan.

My favorite Youtube tunes while I am on the internet are 60s-70s rock and roll, none of them have lyrics like the ones posted. If they did I wouldn't listen to them. I actually think those lyrics posted are harmful to society too. But again, all of these are just (my) opinions. Others may love that crap and I respect their right to like antyhing they want to, as long as it doesn't hurt others. However, I think those kind of lyrics ARE IN FACT harmful and should be done away with. If a player doesn't like it, who cares? They can go flip burgers or something.....

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Leon

My favorite Youtube tunes while I am on the internet are 60s-70s rock and roll, none of them have lyrics like the ones posted. If they did I wouldn't listen to them.

Well now I've seen plenty of players walk up to "Walk This Way" (ok, maybe not recently, but 20 years ago), which has the filthiest lyrics that no one's ever paid attention to. The first verse of the song is about a kid masturbating because he can't get laid, until his Dad tells him to go "down on a muffin." Then he finds a girl who is a "real young bleeder," and they commence to getting it on.

Different generation, different words, still explicit.

[Leon]

The difference is my 8 yr old won't understand the inferences in the Aerosmith song but will hear that vulgar and nauseating crap being played today. One is very explicit and one isn't. Big difference to me but we can certainly agree to disagree. There is no harm in that. I guess I would be a very poor MLB commissioner because I guarantee that vulgarity wouldn't be spewed over my loudspeakers. Yeap, different times no doubt. I need to head to the hills and be by myself (with my dogs) if that is what we are coming to . To me it's just wrong.

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Well now I've seen plenty of players walk up to "Walk This Way" (ok, maybe not recently, but 20 years ago), which has the filthiest lyrics that no one's ever paid attention to. The first verse of the song is about a kid masturbating because he can't get laid, until his Dad tells him to go "down on a muffin." Then he finds a girl who is a "real young bleeder," and they commence to getting it on.

Different generation, different words, still explicit.

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Leon

I guess I would be a very poor MLB commissioner because I guarantee that vulgarity wouldn't be spewed over my loudspeakers.

I don't think I've seen this in the thread before, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Do we have any indication that any of the explicit lyrics were actually played over the PA? Usually the walkup is about 10 seconds, and you don't even get to the words. I'd imagine the Nats/Yankees/whoever would just play 10 seconds of the song without any offensive lyrics.

[Leon]

I think Peter just posted something about this as I didn't know but was only going by the post. That being said, I would defend the right of folks to listen to that music on their own but I don't believe it is suitable for children. And if any oldie song, which I like, has vulgar lyrics I wouldn't play it either. This isn't about what is new or what is old, this is about morals and what I want my kids to grow up around. I wish I had had it beaten into me as a kid but I didn't.
I understand children will be exposed to everything and all of the time because of the internet. But when at the ballpark maybe we could cut them some slack and make it a wholesome thing again? I would vote for it and maybe even be interested again. I completely understand I could be in the minority on my position and that is ok too. All is well and to each their own...

edited to add, it looks as though that article posted didn't answer the question. If those lyrics are not played at MLB then I will do my best Gilda Radner and go with.....Never Mind

Originally Posted by Bliggity

I don't think I've seen this in the thread before, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Do we have any indication that any of the explicit lyrics were actually played over the PA? Usually the walkup is about 10 seconds, and you don't even get to the words. I'd imagine the Nats/Yankees/whoever would just play 10 seconds of the song without any offensive lyrics.

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogy...ip_hop_culture

[egri]

When I was a senior in high school, for the school's airband competition, the sophomore class's theme was England, so their songs were all from British bands, including One Direction. They wanted to include Live While We're Young, which the principal objected to because one of the lines is

Hey girl it’s now or never, it’s now or never
Don't over-think just let it go
And if we get together, yeah, get together
Don’t let the pictures leave your phone

In the end, what happened is kind of what Bliggity described. They used part of the refrain of the song, not the part I quoted above. The lines that made the final cut were:

Hey girl I’m waiting on ya, I’m waiting on ya
Come on and let me sneak you out
And have a celebration, a celebration
The music up, the windows down
(...)
Let’s go crazy, crazy, crazy ’til we see the sun
I know we only met but let’s pretend it’s love
And never, never, never stop for anyone
Tonight let’s get some and live while we’re young

Still suggestive, but in the same way that I Want To Hold Your Hand is (Paul didn't just want to hold her hand). If it's the same way with walk up music, where the explicit parts aren't played, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

The whole idea of walkup music is stupid IMO. Can't the Facebook/iphone/video game generation tolerate 10 seconds without input? I see these young people walking around or sitting at tables unable to take their eyes off the screen and just wonder what the cumulative effect is going to be.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The whole idea of walkup music is stupid IMO. Can't the Facebook/iphone/video game generation tolerate 10 seconds without input? I see these young people walking around or sitting at tables unable to take their eyes off the screen and just wonder what the cumulative effect is going to be.

Maybe it's to try and psych the opponent out? Maybe to amp up the batter going to the plate?

Pretty sure Mariano Rivera used "Enter Sandman" no I'm no Metallica fan but I do know that "some" people would find their music to be intimidating. Mo's job was to put the batters to sleep

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Maybe it's to try and psych the opponent out? Maybe to amp up the batter going to the plate?

Pretty sure Mariano Rivera used "Enter Sandman" no I'm no Metallica fan but I do know that "some" people would find their music to be intimidating. Mo's job was to put the batters to sleep

I find the game itself sufficiently entertaining that all the music, orgasmic scoreboards, etc. are a stupid distraction. I get that the video game generation is different.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Leon

When I read those lyrics you posted it absolutely validated my disguist for MLB and the fact I haven't liked it since the strike in '94.
So glad I am on the other side of the fence. And MLB actually thinks regular folks want to PAY to hear that kind of crap? I think it should almost be a crime to play it, seriously. And if I had kids there is no way in heck I would bring them to a game to hear that kind of "Music". Totally disguisting to me.

Edited to add, the lyrics were almost edited out of this thread.....but reality is, they already gets played at games. I really can't believe they allow it.

Leon -and others-, I find it safe it assume that the Ballpark (and the Nationals) don't allow parts of the song/s with questionable or offensive lyrics to be played in front of thousands of people. I could be wrong (haven't been to a home Nats game since 2010), but rational expectation leads me to believe that. My 4 year old son received the newest Chipmunks movie for Easter. I came home from last week to find him and my wife singing Sir Mixalot while sitting the table as evidently three talking squirrels sing it in the movie. I didn't go back and watch the film to make sure no questionable lyrics for kids were mentioned because A) the previous Chipmunk films I watched were god awful and B) I have a reasonable expectation that 20th Century Fox didn't include "Alot of pimps won't like this song 'cause them punks lie to hit it and quit it, But I'd rather stay and play 'cause I'm long and I'm strong, And I'm down to get the friction on" in a children's movie about talking squirrels that somehow grossed a quarter of a billion dollars. I would find it safe assume that 85% of people who will hear or heard the portion played before Harper's at-bat have no idea what the song is or what it is about. The other 15% probably have it on their iphone. You could argue that your kid might google it because he heard at the ballpark, but in that case your son/daughter knows how search the web and there is an entire universe of information and content they are likely already filtering through. Less disagreeably, if you haven't been a fan of the game since 94' I implore you to come back. The league currently has the greatest influx of young talent in a half a century.

Originally Posted by xplainer

The music you listen to, the movies you watch, the places you go all point to who you are. That simple. It is the sum of how you live your life.

I've had two careers in two vastly different industries. I previously worked for a University and I currently run a restaurant. I enjoyed my time in education and other than I was offered more money to switch I'd likely still be there. I'll say this though, the people I have a pleasure to work with now are some of the greatest collection of human beings on the planet. The music you listen to, the movies you watch, and the places you go do not define you. How you live your life in treating those both stranger and kin define who you are. I don't consider my age (32) "old" but there is clearly a generation gap between me and the majority of my employees (18-23). They listen to music I find absurd, watch movies I'll likely never view, snapchat incessantly, and everyday there is a new word to describe how cool or uncool something is. Those that aren't in the college age demographic often have had a personal issue or two. You don't set out to be a middle aged line cook or waiter, although some of them make great money. Out of my 45 employees there might be five who under this absurd definition of character would qualify as upstanding or however we're judging people by their media consumed, language used, clothing worn, or places attended. What they do, however, is work hard for long hours with a smile and high five at the end of day and night. Some of them work 50-55 hours a week, raise kids, and go to school. When a fellow employee lost everything in a fire they raised and contributed enough time and money to immediately house the family, put clothes on their back, and replace the kids' favorite toys and electronics even though for most it was needed or could be used in their own household. Yet, when the doors are locked and last customer leaves they play their own music which often includes lyrics similar to what has been copied and pasted here - and I'll take them over many of the more "professional" peers I've interacted with in my lifetime.


Steven Finley

[darwinbulldog]

Bravo, all of that.