Bryce Harper

[Leon]

The difference is my 8 yr old won't understand the inferences in the Aerosmith song but will hear that vulgar and nauseating crap being played today. One is very explicit and one isn't. Big difference to me but we can certainly agree to disagree. There is no harm in that. I guess I would be a very poor MLB commissioner because I guarantee that vulgarity wouldn't be spewed over my loudspeakers. Yeap, different times no doubt. I need to head to the hills and be by myself (with my dogs) if that is what we are coming to . To me it's just wrong.

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Well now I've seen plenty of players walk up to "Walk This Way" (ok, maybe not recently, but 20 years ago), which has the filthiest lyrics that no one's ever paid attention to. The first verse of the song is about a kid masturbating because he can't get laid, until his Dad tells him to go "down on a muffin." Then he finds a girl who is a "real young bleeder," and they commence to getting it on.

Different generation, different words, still explicit.

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Leon

I guess I would be a very poor MLB commissioner because I guarantee that vulgarity wouldn't be spewed over my loudspeakers.

I don't think I've seen this in the thread before, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Do we have any indication that any of the explicit lyrics were actually played over the PA? Usually the walkup is about 10 seconds, and you don't even get to the words. I'd imagine the Nats/Yankees/whoever would just play 10 seconds of the song without any offensive lyrics.

[Leon]

I think Peter just posted something about this as I didn't know but was only going by the post. That being said, I would defend the right of folks to listen to that music on their own but I don't believe it is suitable for children. And if any oldie song, which I like, has vulgar lyrics I wouldn't play it either. This isn't about what is new or what is old, this is about morals and what I want my kids to grow up around. I wish I had had it beaten into me as a kid but I didn't.
I understand children will be exposed to everything and all of the time because of the internet. But when at the ballpark maybe we could cut them some slack and make it a wholesome thing again? I would vote for it and maybe even be interested again. I completely understand I could be in the minority on my position and that is ok too. All is well and to each their own...

edited to add, it looks as though that article posted didn't answer the question. If those lyrics are not played at MLB then I will do my best Gilda Radner and go with.....Never Mind

Originally Posted by Bliggity

I don't think I've seen this in the thread before, but forgive me if I'm wrong. Do we have any indication that any of the explicit lyrics were actually played over the PA? Usually the walkup is about 10 seconds, and you don't even get to the words. I'd imagine the Nats/Yankees/whoever would just play 10 seconds of the song without any offensive lyrics.

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think Peter just posted something about this as I didn't know but was only going by the post. That being said, I would defend the right of folks to listen to that music on their own but I don't believe it is suitable for children. And if any oldie song, which I like, has vulgar lyrics I wouldn't play it either. This isn't about what is new or what is old, this is about morals and what I want my kids to grow up around. I wish I had had it beaten into me as a kid but I didn't.
I understand children will be exposed to everything and all of the time because of the internet. But when at the ballpark maybe we could cut them some slack and make it a wholesome thing again? I would vote for it and maybe even be interested again. I completely understand I could be in the minority on my position and that is ok too. All is well and to each their own...

edited to add, it looks as though that article posted didn't answer the question. If those lyrics are not played at MLB then I will do my best Gilda Radner and go with.....Never Mind

Well I don't disagree with you about not wanting those lyrics blared over the PA. I just can't imagine that the Yankees would actually play "Fuck my enemies, fuck my foes" over the PA as Jeter steps up. Same with Harper. Yeah, Harper picked a crude song, and people who are familiar with the song would see the crudeness (and humor?) in it. But a kid at the ballpark who hears a few seconds of music without the offending lyrics included isn't going to notice anything or make that connection. So for me, unless we somehow know that the actual lyrics were played during the 10-second walkup, this seems like a nonissue.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Bliggity

Well I don't disagree with you about not wanting those lyrics blared over the PA. I just can't imagine that the Yankees would actually play "Fuck my enemies, fuck my foes" over the PA as Jeter steps up. Same with Harper. Yeah, Harper picked a crude song, and people who are familiar with the song would see the crudeness (and humor?) in it. But a kid at the ballpark who hears a few seconds of music without the offending lyrics included isn't going to notice anything or make that connection. So for me, unless we somehow know that the actual lyrics were played during the 10-second walkup, this seems like a nonissue.

And when the kid who worships Harper finds out what song it is and goes home and googles it?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Lyrics bleeped out or not, I still agree with Peter here.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And when the kid who worships Harper finds out what song it is and goes home and googles it?

Edited to add: When I was a kid, I did exactly that so I am speaking from experience. Google wasn't around back then, but there were still other sources from which I could copy lyrics. One of the songs I copied down was Quiet Riot's "Cum on Feel the Noize". I didn't even know what that meant at the time, but my mom found the lyrics I had copied down and had a cow.

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Lyrics bleeped out or not, I still agree with Peter here.



Edited to add: When I was a kid, I did exactly that so I am speaking from experience. Google wasn't around back then, but there were still other sources from which I could copy lyrics. One of the songs I copied down was Quiet Riot's "Cum on Feel the Noize". I didn't even know what that meant at the time, but my mom found the lyrics I had copied down and had a cow.

Heard it on the way to work with my two older boys ages 9 and 4. That was scandalous stuff as a kid. Still uneasy with it with my kids in the car.

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogy...ip_hop_culture

[egri]

When I was a senior in high school, for the school's airband competition, the sophomore class's theme was England, so their songs were all from British bands, including One Direction. They wanted to include Live While We're Young, which the principal objected to because one of the lines is

Hey girl it’s now or never, it’s now or never
Don't over-think just let it go
And if we get together, yeah, get together
Don’t let the pictures leave your phone

In the end, what happened is kind of what Bliggity described. They used part of the refrain of the song, not the part I quoted above. The lines that made the final cut were:

Hey girl I’m waiting on ya, I’m waiting on ya
Come on and let me sneak you out
And have a celebration, a celebration
The music up, the windows down
(...)
Let’s go crazy, crazy, crazy ’til we see the sun
I know we only met but let’s pretend it’s love
And never, never, never stop for anyone
Tonight let’s get some and live while we’re young

Still suggestive, but in the same way that I Want To Hold Your Hand is (Paul didn't just want to hold her hand). If it's the same way with walk up music, where the explicit parts aren't played, I wouldn't have an issue with it.

[Leon]

I agree....if the explicit parts are taken out, not near as bad. I don't find these lyrics as offensive as the others. They aren't as explicit and leave it to the imagination. Children shouldn't know about a lot of those things so they have nothing to imagine ...I know they do BUT They have plenty of places and times to learn them, at the ballpark watching baseball doesn't need to be one of them. End of rant.....back to the cards for me, which I enjoy very much.

BTW, I love the game of baseball and am about to start playing softball again after a slight injury (old age).

Originally Posted by egri

When I was a senior in high school, for the school's airband competition, the sophomore class's theme was England, so their songs were all from British bands, including One Direction. They wanted to include Live While We're Young, which the principal objected to because one of the lines is

Hey girl it’s now or never, it’s now or never
Don't over-think just let it go
And if we get together, yeah, get together
Don’t let the pictures leave your phone

In the end, what happened is kind of what Bliggity described. They used part of the refrain of the song, not the part I quoted above. The lines that made the final cut were:

Hey girl I’m waiting on ya, I’m waiting on ya
Come on and let me sneak you out
And have a celebration, a celebration
The music up, the windows down
(...)
Let’s go crazy, crazy, crazy ’til we see the sun
I know we only met but let’s pretend it’s love
And never, never, never stop for anyone
Tonight let’s get some and live while we’re young

Still suggestive, but in the same way that I Want To Hold Your Hand is (Paul didn't just want to hold her hand). If it's the same way with walk up music, where the explicit parts aren't played, I wouldn't have an issue with it.