poor 1933 goudey ruth opinion

[richardcards]

1933 goudey ruth
Bought it 15 years ago at card

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[bobbyw8469]

lol....damn

[vintagesportscollector]

The Babe always looked better from behind anyway.

[ullmandds]

Worth about the same real or fake!!!

[BBB]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Worth about the same real or fake!!!

I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by BBB

I'd wager someone would still pay $20-$30 if it were real.

Like i said...

[brianp-beme]

If real, because it is a Goudey Babe, my guess is it would fetch at least $100. The card's back looks possibly legit, but the front scan is just too blurry to make a virtual judgement.

Brian

[richardcards]

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[richardcards]

Not for sale but fyi PSA 0 go for $1200
$20? Wow
I wish could another one for that price.

[mrmopar]

A poor condition Ruth may sell in the $1200 range if it presents well. I have been watching the 181 over the last several months and poor copies routinely break $1K, but they look great for the grade. I don't know how well that version sells because I am not interested in it, but although I don't doubt someone would pay $100 for one that bad, I am not sure why. Isn't one of the allures of a baseball card the appearance? I suppose filling a hole for a set is one reason, but jeez...

[ullmandds]

My comment was made somewhat in jest as reprints routinely sell for a few hundred $.

[bobbyw8469]

There are different levels of PSA 1's. That being said, this card won't 1. It would set record low for "authentic" if it is real.

[richardcards]

I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter

[pokerplyr80]

750 sounds pretty high to me in an authentic holder. 200-300 would be my guess. There is too much paper loss on the front for much more than that.

[Bruinsfan94]

If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.

[brianp-beme]

Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.

As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?

Brian

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by richardcards

I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .

That is staggeringly dumb.

[Bruinsfan94]

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

Ok, how much for this authentic Ruth? It is obviously missing huge chunks and is actually in two pieces, but in my opinion it displays a lot nicer than the one posted. We all had a nice laugh when I have posted this in the past...it is not all about the money.

As a side question, I wonder how much someone would pay for my Diamond Stars Hornsby with the blank front?

Brian

Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

If you could get 200-300$ I'd take it and never look back.

Agreed!! I was thinking $40 was too much!

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bcornell

That is staggeringly dumb.

That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That's a little harsh. If there is enough of the card left to grade I would send it in. I'm sure it's worth more graded as raw there is more of a question of authenticity.

Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Please. If you put garbage in a holder, it doesn't "show nicer" and it isn't "worth more".

Depends on the holder.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

Yea I agree that is much nicer because you can actually see the Babes face & body. I think the only way someone would buy that Hornsby would be to use it for some kind of shady purpose.

When I previously posted the Ruth, someone commented that they never knew the Babe had such an hourglass figure.

And scammers take note...the Hornsby is not for sale! The only shady purpose I intend for it involves using it as a coaster while resting in a hammock.

Brian

[richardcards]

I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by richardcards

I asked for opinions not insults
Thanks Billy. Im dumb and card is garbage.
Brain like ur ruth i think its awesome card.

Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.

[7nohitter]

I would love to some day add a Ruth to my '33 collection, and condition is not an issue for me. HOWEVER, I wouldn't go more than $25 for that filler.

I would extremely surprised, even if holdered, this card fetched more than $75.

[IronHorse2130]

This one recently sold on eBay for $650

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...p2047675.l2557

It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by IronHorse2130

This one recently sold on eBay for $650

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-...p2047675.l2557

It has a very nice front with a back that has been destroyed. Based on this and similar sales I don't think it is realistic to expect $750 or more for your example.

You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

You are insane. At least you can see the front on that one. How many people only look at the backs of cards and completely ignore the front?? ZERO. At least on the other example you can see the front. If you were filling it pages of a binder, that slot would be filled, and you can SEE it is a Babe Ruth card. On the OP's example, I have no idea WHO it is!

I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.

Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I think Ben was attempting to say the same as you, he was not backing up the OP's opinion. He was offering a good example of a poor card to state the value was unrealistic.

Personally, I like well presenting poor cards and that example that Ben posted would be a great one for a low budget collector who wanted a Ruth. If it was displayed, no one would know the better. The OPs card ( and I am only being honest, no insult meant) I likely would not put more than 10 bucks toward and that would be just to give it to my son for fun. It has no presentation worth at all.

Yea...I misread his. My bad. At least we are all in agreement.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by richardcards

I trust the dealer I got it from 15 years ago.
PSA 0
goes for $1200 with 25 watching.
I will send to grading one day will show a lot nicer .
I have examined with my goudey cards and 100%.
$100? more like $750 but again not selling
happy easter

I am really confused. You know this card is authentic, and you know what the card is worth. What would you like an opinion on?

[ullmandds]

all cards presented are nicer and more valuable than that of the op. just because the op purchased a likely authentic beat to piss goudey ruth years ago for likely a song...the op shouldn't take it as an insult...unless he purposely made the card this way...that this card is not very valuable.

it is what it is.

[Bpm0014]

The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....

[glynparson]

Sorry but all Authentic grades are not valued the same. I honestly think you could get $300-$400 for the card in a
pSA or SGC authentic holder but it would not be an easy sell.

[Leon]

As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Didn't mean to insult. You implied it was a $750-$1200 card though. That is ludicrous.

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

The guy who owns the $25 card in question here, and the guy that bought the $650 Ruth card with back damage on Ebay (2 threads above).........should get together and put BOTH cards in a holder back to back. Nice front, nice back. Problem solved! You're welcome....

Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

As in the other mistake you made, is your name Billy? Now I see why you couldn't see a thread that was in front of your eyes for 4 days. No big deal but you either need to slow down or speed up or something. PS...I think the OPs card goes for $223.50 in auction (if it went to auction).

Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.

PS....put me down for $20 on the UNDER....as long as it is a legit auction with no shilling or anything nefarious going on.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

Seriously, that's actually a really good observation. If I had the $650 Ruth, I would pay a premium (not $750, but something more than $25, $100?? maybe), just to get the clean back. That would be a cool display seeing front and back together side-by-side. In this case the whole (or two halves) would be greater than the sum of the parts.

Agreed. Would make a good display piece in a frame or something. That is the ONLY way I would be interested in that card.

[Leon]

So Richards name is now Billy? I guess my name is Stan and you can be Steve.

I never said you got emails, Bobby. I doubt you did (though from what I see on the board you might have missed them if they were in front of your face.) It's not a big deal I was just pointing out you don't tend to see things in front of you.

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not really a mistake. I never got emails. You said I got them. Well, I didn't. You said I did though, so I'll take the hit and say I got them. My mistake. You can call me Billy.

[bobbyw8469]

You can call me Al. Just don't call me late for dinner. God, I wish I owned a Goudey Ruth right about now! :-p

[hangman62]

front looks good
back is a reprint

[richardcards]

Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all

[Bliggity]

Originally Posted by richardcards

Im not worried about the money but
I know its worth at least $500 some people see garbage I see a beautiful ruth card that's not for sale
thanks and good luck to all

Well, we're five pages deep now and we still don't know what you want an opinion on. Was there a question here? If the question is one of value, not a single person has agreed with your estimate, yet you still "know it's worth at least $500." Why ask for opinions if you know the answer already and aren't interested in listening to opinions?

ETA: I realize these are largely rhetorical questions at this point

[richardcards]

yes I asked for opinions but not anymore since I get estimates of $10 and $25
and insults that my card is garbage.

[Bruinsfan94]

So you want opinions as long as they agree with you? I'm not sure if the card is real and even if it was, does anyone think that one of the big three would holder it? If it is real I think it would go for over 20$ for people who want a filler or a real Ruth. A Goudey Ruth with a much better picture, though trimmed, went for like 375 last month.

[richardcards]

im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by richardcards

im no longer interested in any opnions.
Ive put away my gem ruth for good.
thank u

That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That sounds like it is for the best. I doubt anyone will ever appreciate that card as much as you do.

I've been formulating my opinion for a couple of days and now just when I am ready to pull the trigger, I am too late. Shucks!!!