Anyone watching probstein auctions

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I once went the other direction although the swing wasn't nearly as big as it would be today. Bought a Russell in an 8 oc. Got it into a straight 8. Sold it to the same guy for a multiple of what I had paid. It was hysterical. All about the flip.

That can't be possible with such strict calibrated grading standards Peter

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

That can't be possible with such strict calibrated grading standards Peter

2 bids in the last 30 days, 1 cancellation. Something is rotten in Denmark. God, is there a legitimate eBay seller anymore?

[glynparson]

A laugh ? How it is well documented that many early sgc graded cards during the merkle era were not judged harshly at all in fact when I worked at sgc it was not a guarantee that cards graded during the merkle regime would be regraded with the same grade as many were outside the tolerance not sure exactly what you meant but your wrong if you were disagreeing with me. It is honestly not just merkle era grades either as it is often discussed throughout the industry how sgc is not as strict on centering.It is well within the 70-30 PSA says it can be and still get an 8 ( I agree you seldom see a 70-30 card in an 8): PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by glynparson

A laugh ? How it is well documented that many early sgc graded cards during the merkle era were not judged harshly at all in fact when I worked at sgc it was not a guarantee that cards graded during the merkle regime would be regraded with the same grade as many were outside the tolerance not sure exactly what you meant but your wrong if you were disagreeing with me. It is honestly not just merkle era grades either as it is often discussed throughout the industry how sgc is not as strict on centering.It is well within the 70-30 PSA says it can be and still get an 8 ( I agree you seldom see a 70-30 card in an 8): PSA NM-MT 8 is a super high-end card that appears Mint 9 at first glance, but upon closer inspection, the card can exhibit the following: a very slight wax stain on reverse, slightest fraying at one or two corners, a minor printing imperfection, and/or slightly off-white borders. Centering must be approximately 65/35 to 70/30 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the reverse.

I don't when the "Merkle era" was nor do I care. I am talking about today's grading. I don' buy the holder, but the card. My experience leads me to SGC. I have been burned too many times by the sub standard grading at PSA. I intentionally buy PSA cards only to break them out and resubmit to SGC where they usually receive at least half grade lower. Again that's my experience.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cammb

I don't when the "Merkle era" was nor do I care. I am talking about today's grading. I don' buy the holder, but the card. My experience leads me to SGC. I have been burned too many times by the sub standard grading at PSA. I intentionally buy PSA cards only to break them out and resubmit to SGC where they usually receive at least half grade lower. Again that's my experience.

I completely disagree. In my opinion PSA is much stricter these days.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I completely disagree. In my opinion PSA is much stricter these days.

It really depends on the "problem" with the card. They grade cards very differently.

I say problem because that is really all they do is point out the problems on with a card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

It really depends on the "problem" with the card. They grade cards very differently.

I say problem because that is really all they do is point out the problems on with a card.

Fair enough but I was talking about corner wear and centering. There are numerous SGC 8s that would get 7s and SGC 7s that would get 6s; at those grades the problems are corners and centering.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by cammb

I don't when the "Merkle era" was nor do I care. I am talking about today's grading. I don' buy the holder, but the card. My experience leads me to SGC. I have been burned too many times by the sub standard grading at PSA. I intentionally buy PSA cards only to break them out and resubmit to SGC where they usually receive at least half grade lower. Again that's my experience.

That doesn't seem like an economically sound strategy as SGC cards typically sell at substantially lower prices than the same card in an equivalent PSA holder.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That doesn't seem like an economically sound strategy as SGC cards typically sell at substantially lower prices than the same card in an equivalent PSA holder.

There is no strategy. There happens to be many more psa commons that I need than sgc. I collect sgc 80 or better. I have tried numerous times , without much success, to crossover to sgc and always being met with "does not minimum grade requested". So I buy psa one grade higher.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by cammb

There is no strategy. There happens to be many more psa commons that I need than sgc. I collect sgc 80 or better. I have tried numerous times , without much success, to crossover to sgc and always being met with "does not minimum grade requested". So I buy psa one grade higher.

Fair enough of you're happy with what you end up with that is all that matters. For the cards I collect if I paid the PSA price and sent it to SGC for a 1/2 point deduction, or even the same grade, I would take a big hit.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

2 bids in the last 30 days, 1 cancellation. Something is rotten in Denmark. God, is there a legitimate eBay seller anymore?

Still a few good ones. Getting fewer I am afraid

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by iowadoc77

Still a few good ones. Getting fewer I am afraid

What's everyone's consensus on gregmorriscards? 100% feedback, cards always look good. Trim jobs, or just a good seller selling a quality product?

[moeson]

I have won several cards from Greg Morris and have not had any issues.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by moeson

I have won several cards from Greg Morris and have not had any issues.

who the hell is Greg Morris??

[moeson]

See post 44 above. He's a major card dealer from way back who does set breaks on Ebay.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

who the hell is Greg Morris??

He played Barney on the original and awesome Mission Impossible TV series....