Looking for a 2nd example of the T206 Cobb (bat off shoulder) / Black LENOX card

[MW1]

Originally Posted by rebelsart

Posted again in this thread is the T206 Ty Cobb, bat off, with Black Lenox back.
Art

Looks re-backed to me.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MW1

Looks re-backed to me.

I had the same thought...

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by MW1

Looks re-backed to me.

Originally Posted by Leon

I had the same thought...

Michael W. and Leon

The last time this Cobb/LENOX was seen was in 2003. This date is well within the timeframe (1999 - 2006) of when that "rash" of "re-backed" (I refer to them as RE-FRONTED,
since this best describes how those T206 fakes were actually implemented) appeared in the hobby.

And, as you well know, we were able to detect those RE-FRONTED fakes since the majority of them had impossible front/back combos. However, those fakes were so sharp that
even the Grading Company's were fooled.

I don't think that this Cobb/LENOX card fits into the RE-FRONTED category. Every one of those RE-FRONTED fakes were professionally produced to grade at least a VgEx to ExMt
condition.

Anyhow, feel free to explain why you think this card appears to be "re-backed".


TED Z
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[Sean]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Michael W. and Leon

The last time this Cobb/LENOX was seen was in 2003.

Ted, I'm confused. I thought that the point of this thread was that you didn't know if the Cobb/Lenox existed. So what do you mean by "the last time (it) was seen was in 2003"?

[ullmandds]

He is implying the one seen in 2003 was fake.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Sean

Ted, I'm confused. I thought that the point of this thread was that you didn't know if the Cobb/Lenox existed. So what do you mean by "the last time (it) was seen was in 2003?

Sean

I shall try to un-confuse you. This is the 36th year that I have been collecting T206's; and, until Art posted this Cobb (bat off shoulder) with a black LENOX back....I had not seen one.

Art told me that this Cobb first appeared at least 15 years ago. And, that these f/b scans of this Cobb date back to 2003. That is the last time this Cobb has been seen.


TED Z
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[ullmandds]

Apparently I was confused as well

[The Nasty Nati]

...so did someone just win $200?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Sean

I shall try to un-confuse you. This is the 36th year that I have been collecting T206's; and, until Art posted this Cobb (bat off shoulder) with a black LENOX back....I had not seen one.

Art told me that this Cobb first appeared approx. 15 years ago. And, that these f/b scans of this Cobb date back to 2003. That is the last time this Cobb has been seen.


TED Z
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Oh, so you didn't mean that it was seen by you. Okay, I get it.

[Pat R]

You never know when a certain card might show up. Just before I joined this forum I confirmed the last unconfirmed Cycle 460 (Schaefer). I had owned
this card for 7 years and didn't even know it was unconfirmed. Around a year later another one showed up and now there are 5 that I know of (might be 4
one could be a crossover).

[RCMcKenzie]

To me, the card looks consistently worn. Beckett is as good as PSA and SGC and I think they would see a 2-part card. Plus, I think Art would know if it were 2 cards glued together. I think he won $200.. Nice card...Rob