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Old 02-07-2016, 09:19 AM
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What if you're a seller and you have to deal with this dipsh*t behavior. As I've explained before, a lot of the time it isn't even a shilling situation. It's a bidding strategy to sabotage an auction.

Hell, even in non-retraction situations it's getting ridiculous out there. I had an item up several weeks ago that I'm convinced two bidders drove up to a very high level, with zero intention to pay, in order to drive up the realized price of something they already had in their collection.

Within a short time of the auction closing, both the first and second high bidders start trying to negotiate with me to sell them the piece at a fraction of what they originally bid on the item. I filed a non-paying strike and blocked the high bidder. I doubt there were any consequences to him however.

Meanwhile, I have two of the exact same item in the ended auction listings on Ebay, with two very different results, and to anybody doing the research, I'm probably the one who looks like the bad guy here.

There are zero repercussions for buyers with bad intentions.

understand....the seller better chance to get screwed on ebay, the buyer more chance to get screwed off ebay with better chance of shilling due to having zero information on who is bidding....sellers that have their cards shilled don't complain, its the buyers..

I do think ebay is tougher on buyers that don't pay then sellers doing all the questionable stuff that has long been discussed... of course buyers can start more and more new accounts..but we can block buyers on ebay with less than x amount of feedback

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Old 02-07-2016, 10:12 AM
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I do think ebay is tougher on buyers that don't pay then sellers doing all the questionable stuff that has long been discussed
How are they tough on buyers that don't pay? I really do not know. What actions do they take?
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:15 AM
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How are they tough on buyers that don't pay? I really do not know. What actions do they take?
they terminate their account and/or restrict the amount they are allowed to bid....the seller get away with selling fake mantles /badly represented cards etc ...

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Old 02-07-2016, 10:21 AM
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they terminate their account and/or restrict the amount they are allowed to bid....the seller get away with selling fake mantles /badly represented cards etc ...
Do the terminate all their accounts or just the one that didn't pay?
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:23 AM
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Do the terminate all their accounts or just the one that didn't pay?
look at my prior post, I did state that people can start up new accounts, but again sellers can block people with less than X feedback..

so yeah I would guess they would only terminate the account that didn't pay, but you are going to run out of accounts with over X feedback if they get blocked..

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Old 02-07-2016, 11:02 AM
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look at my prior post, I did state that people can start up new accounts, but again sellers can block people with less than X feedback..

so yeah I would guess they would only terminate the account that didn't pay, but you are going to run out of accounts with over X feedback if they get blocked..

No. You can only block buyers with less then zero feedback last I checked, which is like finding a unicorn or a bigfoot, since it's impossible for a buyer to accrue a negative feedback.

Even if there is a set number, it's completely useless. Most of these clowns that retracts on a regular basis actually have tons of positive feedback already. Is a seller supposed to just block everybody and expect to get bids?
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Old 02-07-2016, 11:07 AM
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No. You can only block buyers with less then zero feedback last I checked, which is like finding a unicorn or a bigfoot, since it's impossible for a buyer to accrue a negative feedback.

Even if there is a set number, it's completely useless. Most of these clowns that retracts on a regular basis actually have tons of positive feedback already. Is a seller supposed to just block everybody and expect to get bids?
not that easy to get 50 feedback and to get blocked when don't pay on one auction...takes awhile to get the feedback just to get blocked like that and banned potentially from ebay..and yeah you can block people with under 50 feedback if you check....

I wouldn't block everyone, just non legit buyers...if there is a real legit buyer out there that is blocked..he will contact you and pay by paypal in a direct deal and you take off the listing once paid....everyone wins..

also if these clowns have tons of feedback then they must be buying something.(assuming its buying feedback)...not sure what 'tons' of feedback is though......I can tell you every time I have consigned to PWCC I have been paid and they sell on ebay as well....why not just consign it and not deal with the hassle..thats what they get paid to do

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Old 02-07-2016, 03:22 PM
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look at my prior post, I did state that people can start up new accounts, but again sellers can block people with less than X feedback..

so yeah I would guess they would only terminate the account that didn't pay, but you are going to run out of accounts with over X feedback if they get blocked..
So they only terminate the account that didn't pay. So if they have numerous accounts it really doesn't affect them. That's what I thought, just wanted the expert to confirm it, thanks.
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Slightly off-topic: I bought a set of Beats off ebay for my daughter for Christmas. Turns out, they didn't work well, so I asked the seller to return. This was my first time through the process. He didn't reply, so I called ebay. They were VERY helpful, saw all my emails, and so no response. So they closed the case and I had the money back in my account in two days, and I got to keep the beats! (Which work occasionally.)

What really surprised me is that he's still an active seller!

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