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Old 12-22-2014, 09:08 AM
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At this point in the auction, the proper thing to do would be put in a retraction, and then put in the actual bid he intended to make in the first place. Waiting until the auction ends and then not paying/returning hurts the seller in this transaction. Retracting a bid with plenty of time left in the auction is the proper response.
+1..just retract the bid and put in the intended bid. It is when people just retract for no reason, and do no bid again that we block. If they retract a bid and then resubmit their intended bid, they are allowed to do that
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Old 12-22-2014, 09:38 AM
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+1..just retract the bid and put in the intended bid. It is when people just retract for no reason, and do no bid again that we block. If they retract a bid and then resubmit their intended bid, they are allowed to do that
Good point. Some sellers are vindictive and will put you on their blocked buyer list if you retract a bid...

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Old 12-22-2014, 09:42 AM
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Good point. Some sellers are vindictive and will put you on their blocked buyer list in you retract a bid...
right some weird sellers out there...if you retract just one time they do that..cant imagine Macys barring a customer for returning one item...
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right some weird sellers out there...if you retract just one time they do that..cant imagine Macys barring a customer for returning one item...
Comparing a collector/seller and what they should do to Macy's is almost too ridiculous to even comment on. Almost.

I'll block a retractor because life is too short and I don't play games. In the OP case, it's obviously a mistake. But otherwise, I'll block you. When my revenues get to the point of Macy's, I'll change my practices.
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:50 AM
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I'll block a retractor because life is too short and I don't play games. In the OP case, it's obviously a mistake. But otherwise, I'll block you. When my revenues get to the point of Macy's, I'll change my practices.
+1...A bid retractor is usually a problem bidder. Online auction houses (Huggins & Scott, Robert Edwards, et al) do not allow bid retractors. Why should Ebay be any different. If someone retracts a bid with me and doesn't rebid their "proper" bid, then YES, they will get blocked. They are abusing the bid retraction policy and we don't allow that. Now if only Probstein and PWCC would follow suit.
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I retracted about 10 bids about a year ago. I saw those "Christmas Rack Packs" and they were being sold as a Topps item. So I bid away. Then I thought hmmm... maybe I better do a little research. After my bullshit meter finally went off, I retracted all the bids I had placed. I guess I just needed to confess this to someone since bid retractions are looked at with such disdain.

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Comparing a collector/seller and what they should do to Macy's is almost too ridiculous to even comment on. Almost.

I'll block a retractor because life is too short and I don't play games. In the OP case, it's obviously a mistake. But otherwise, I'll block you. When my revenues get to the point of Macy's, I'll change my practices.

Well JC Penny would do the same thing as Macys in terms of allowing people t bring stuff back and they are losing money so maybe they shouldn't let people return items...since they are losing money im assuming your revenues are better than jc penny..
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Comparing a collector/seller and what they should do to Macy's is almost too ridiculous to even comment on. Almost.

I'll block a retractor because life is too short and I don't play games. In the OP case, it's obviously a mistake. But otherwise, I'll block you. When my revenues get to the point of Macy's, I'll change my practices.

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Good point. Some sellers are vindictive and will put you on their blocked buyer list if you retract a bid...
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right some weird sellers out there...if you retract just one time they do that..cant imagine Macys barring a customer for returning one item...
This is silliness. Blocking a bidder who negatively affects your auction, and who doesn't contact you to explain, is good business sense: you lose one 'customer' who didn't buy anything from you and who might have pissed off other customers who actually planned to, and by doing so you keep other real customers. I have even given refunds to winning bidders, based on ignoring someone's bids who might have looked like a shill to the winning bidder.
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Would this bid retraction have anything to do with Ice Cream memorabilia? Snicker, snicker.... just kidding everyone.... oh yeah, Happy New Year to all!
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Would this bid retraction have anything to do with Ice Cream memorabilia? Snicker, snicker.... just kidding everyone.... oh yeah, Happy New Year to all!
I think in almost all cases bid retractions are bad - bad for the seller in that they 'usually' look bad to his other paying customers. But Phil showed us an example of where perhaps they are not bad for the seller: if Phil is sending the seller lots of business, but the only way he can do this is by sometimes retracting bids, and he informs the seller(s) of this in advance, then as a buyer I would be stupid to block him, unless his retractions make him appear to my other customers that he is a shill. I like money as much as the next guy.
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I think in almost all cases bid retractions are bad - bad for the seller in that they 'usually' look bad to his other paying customers. But Phil showed us an example of where perhaps they are not bad for the seller: if Phil is sending the seller lots of business, but the only way he can do this is by sometimes retracting bids, and he informs the seller(s) of this in advance, then as a buyer I would be stupid to block him, unless his retractions make him appear to my other customers that he is a shill. I like money as much as the next guy.
When he is an underbidder on a lot and he shows 93 retractions in the last 6 months, he looks like a shill to a lot of people, at least according to an untold number of threads on NET54 in the last several years dedicated to PWCC, Probstein, etc....

When he retracts a bid on a lot, and it shows he has 93 retractions in the last 6 months, he REALLY looks like a shill to everybody else who is left bidding on that lot.
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Good point. Some sellers are vindictive and will put you on their blocked buyer list if you retract a bid...
I run into one of those vindictive sellers yesterday. I asked if their obviously altered card was real and if it would pass a grading company. Sellers response was "you are now blocked". Bet that card was real.
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