the list (of criminals) is revealed

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by 3arod13

Because when it comes down to it, if a bad or dishonest seller has something a person wants to add to their collection, they will push honesty, integrity, and ethics to the side, because they want it. Not sure if anyone could stop that from happening.

Why not, you can't simply refuse to bid?
This is not food and water we are talking about here, it's pictures of dead men on cardboard for the most part. At some point, if you keep getting in line to get peed on you shouldn't complain about getting wet.

[glynparson]

just checked working fine for me and people have posted today, not sure what Bob is referring to as plug pulled?

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by glynparson

just checked working fine for me and people have posted today, not sure what Bob is referring to as plug pulled?

reread. all but pulled the plug. but "works" is a relative term.

impeccable timing to boot a ton of folks that use their voice, deletes thread that indicate internal stinky fish, initiate a so called upgrade that alienates half the board and still isn't working properly. blame the probs on some one else. get called out on it. and then have the audacity to reply w/ "you're just not that important right now".

so, technically it is a "working" ghost town...and timing is pretty convenient for them.

folks are simply fed up w/ the gag order presence and the way it's been run...

which getting back to my original post today is a complete nod to leon and this place.

[glynparson]

That is nothing new that is par for the course over there. Has been for over a decade. Why would they allow people to use a forum on their website to possibly hurt their investors investment? I never quite understood why it shocks people that they don't allow themselves to be harshly criticized on their own website. I dont post over there very often. i post here occasionaly though. I agree this is a better forum.

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by glynparson

That is nothing new that is par for the course over there. Has been for over a decade. Why would they allow people to use a forum on their website to possibly hurt their investors investment? I never quite understood why it shocks people that they don't allow themselves to be harshly criticized on their own website. I dont post over there very often. i post here occasionaly though. I agree this is a better forum.

decades of deleting self-damning threads?

100%.



the rest, all fairly recent.

and has since become a ghost town.



considering the timing and their reply...

pretty clear they don't mind one bit.


"never get cheated...unless one of our board of experts can assist"


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[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Why not, you can't simply refuse to bid?
This is not food and water we are talking about here, it's pictures of dead men on cardboard for the most part. At some point, if you keep getting in line to get peed on you shouldn't complain about getting wet.

+1

[begsu1013]

interesting side note post:

so, shilling is actually allowable and a legal, protected practice under texas law.

interesting and good to know.

[wake.up.the.echoes]

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=66976

Relax everyone. We can all sleep easy. Ken's on top of things.

-Alan Zimmerman

[itslarry]

Originally Posted by wake.up.the.echoes

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_f...ad.php?t=66976

Relax everyone. We can all sleep easy. Ken's on top of things.

-Alan Zimmerman

Well that didn't last long

[Leon]

Originally Posted by itslarry

Well that didn't last long

My understanding is there are potentially damaging legal issues with the thread which was deleted. I would have taken the same action on this board. As for anything else I am not commenting at this time. But that deletion, I don't think, will eventually be classified as censoring. This issue has nothing to do with Ken or Goldin Auctions.

[xplainer]

Thanks for that info Leon.
And if I was wearing a cap, I'd tip it to you for allowing this discussion on your forum.

Thank you Sir.

[dhernandez]

Originally Posted by itslarry

Well that didn't last long

I'm at a loss here. Can someone explain to me what thread was deleted and what the content was? It doesn't need to be super specific and generalization is ok. I tried the Link provided by Alan but it's a dead end. Just curious if it was finally a retort by Mr.Goldin in response to the current controversy at hand. Lastly this is the 3rd picture or reference of GUU/Goldin to apes or monkeys am I missing something here or is this a inside joke?Thanks all

[AddieJoss]

So with this new information I hope two things will happen:

1.) The sports collectible auction "industry" will consolidate to the most trust worthy, best auction houses with great customer service. I am sure many of have our favorites as well as ones we are not fond of. We have already seen great expansion of the auction houses over the past ~10 years, and already started to see some contraction. If that contraction continues it will be good for the hobby (I'm not saying it boils down to 2 or 3 houses, but there a ton today) as sellers and bidders will have confidence in the process.

2.) More dealers and collectors will "sell" their cards and not just list in auction houses. I can remember 10+ years ago, when one would go to a large card show, there were so many great cards available for sale. Now it is challenging to purchase very good and great cards at a show. You can likely view them in an upcoming auction, but can not buy them. Often when I go to the National, I'll move on to a table and ask about a card (since virtually no cards are priced) and then find out it isn't for sale.

I know this news that comes out has meaningful negative implications. I'm simply looking for what, if any good may arise as I hope our industry cleans up and moves on.

Cory Weiser