the list (of criminals) is revealed

[TheNightmanCometh]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Exactly right. And, I had almost forgotten about that sordid episode with SCP. Luckily, there are links

How to get ripped off by SCP Auctions & Sotheby's

bonus SCP thread: An open letter to SCP auctions

Sure, it was a 'long time ago'. Leopards change their spots.

I'm sure the answer is no, but was the issue with the photo ever resolved?

[SyrNy1960]

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by TheNightmanCometh

I'm sure the answer is no, but was the issue with the photo ever resolved?

No.

[batsballsbases]

I always wondered how much extra these and many other items cost me thru the years. Maybe one day I will get my answer... Note the owner of these. Like many and myself have said I do hope they show years above 2009.

[RichardSimon]

I guess all we can do is speculate about what might have went on when "Mr. Mastro, prison inmate" sold his personal collection.

[begsu1013]

i got one simple question for those who got shilled...

WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO ABOUT IT?

again, i never really purchased from ah's. luckily i'm lazy, unwilling to learn 30 different user ids and passwords or bid in 15 min spans after the auction closes or any of that absolute bs, but...

I can guaranfntee that if I was "just another victim" of the sgc owner and his brother that i would be down in boca raton right now w/ a fully charged iphone, videoing him get served w/ suit right in the middle of church this sunday. the proof is literally right in front of you.

obviously allen and maestro are turnips at this point, but aren't there a lot of folks that are still major players in the auction/fraud game!

so, again. and instead of posting on a message board about how crooked they are and how all of this is a travesty...

what are you prepared to do?

or more importantly what ARE you doing besides typing/talking on some forum?

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

so, again. and instead of posting on a message board about how crooked they are and how all of this is a travesty...

what are you prepared to do?

or more importantly what ARE you doing besides typing/talking on some forum?

I'm changing my bidding habits and will from now on only bid incrementally (never again will I place a maximum bid.) I'm having conversations within and outside this forum to determine which AH I feel I can trust (there are some.)

As to punishing the offenders, I'll leave that up to the FBI and the courts.

People posting on these message boards about their various experiences is helpful to me in determining who I want to do business with in the future. This is a useful topic to discuss, and WAY better than not discussing it at all, pretending it doesn't exist, or trying to stifle the conversation.

And the biggest thing I've learned is, thank goodness for net54, because Leon is the ONLY owner of a major hobby site that I know of, who is allowing the conversation. This, despite several posters using the opportunity to attack him personally.

I value the concept of free speech pretty highly (as with other basic essential rights we must all have to live in a free society,) and I also value the concept of ownership, and the fact that Leon, or any site owner, has the right to delete posts and ban members as he chooses. So, when he chooses to allow us to openly discuss this, and he allows several people to use the opportunity to attack him personally, I think it's pretty significant.

I used to spend 80% of my hobby blog time on another site and occasionally checked things out here. That has dramatically changed. I've lost a lot of respect for that other site, the way they've shut down this conversation, and I've developed a lot of respect for the owner of this site.

So... that's doing things and making tangible changes.

[keithsky]

At almost 800 posts you can see this topic is affecting all of us. Some of the post on here have gotten off topic but quickly gets back on tract. I also give Leon credit for letting everyone voice there opinion on this even if it he has taken jabs personally at him which he has taken it well and could have easily deleted it but hasn't, so kudos to him. Guys are concerned about the shilling going on and when you go on other sites, people have said they have deleted posts. If your on that list why not make a small comment about it. If people were making statements about me I think I would defend myself. I think most guys on the list that haven't made a comment are just waiting for things to die down and go away. Like most things people move on and forget or let it go and in my opinion in a few weeks there won't be anymore posts on this as it will run it's coarse and those guys won't have to worry about it anymore at least for the time being. I hope the topic stays alive and we all need to police the hobby. Thanks Leon for letting us vent.

[Rich Klein]

There is a thread still open on Beckett but because the audience is far different, that thread went nowhere

http://www.beckett.com/forums/thread-1580531.html

Rich

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Mark17

And the biggest thing I've learned is, thank goodness for net54, because Leon is the ONLY owner of a major hobby site that I know of, who is allowing the conversation. This, despite several posters using the opportunity to attack him personally....

Kudos to that. I don't know Leon, never meet him. But have some big time respect for how he runs this board. Makes the other forums look like a bunch of amateurs.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

luckily i'm lazy, unwilling to learn 30 different user ids and passwords

Dashlane.com

great password/wallet software and it is free for your PC.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Dashlane.com



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