No HOF For Pete

[packs]

The point is he lied about it again. If it's not a big deal that he's betting on baseball now, why did he lie?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

The point is he lied about it again. If it's not a big deal that he's betting on baseball now, why did he lie?

Because he is a compulsive liar, probably. And has terrible judgment. But again, so what? He committed an offense, he served a disproportionate sentence, and it's time to recognize him for the great and unbelievably competitive baseball player he was.

[packs]

Disproportionate in what sense? There are still people who are banned spanning a 100 years ago. How has Pete Rose's sentence been especially harsh?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Disproportionate in what sense? There are still people who are banned spanning a 100 years ago. How has Pete Rose's sentence been especially harsh?

He didn't throw any games, or compromise the integrity of a single played game, as far as we know. He didn't cheat in any games. He didn't use banned substances. He didn't commit any violent crimes off the field. For what he did, in my opinion, a lifetime ban is excessive. Way excessive.

[packs]

Well I would say the only reason we don't know for sure if he threw any games is because he's constantly lying about what he did or didn't do. So his own actions serve to cast doubt on his story. Everything happening to him is his own doing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Well I would say the only reason we don't know for sure if he threw any games is because he's constantly lying about what he did or didn't do. So his own actions serve to cast doubt on his story. Everything happening to him is his own doing.

We can only go by what we know in punishing someone. Given how incredibly competitive he was, I doubt it though.

[nolemmings]

Given how incredibly competitive he was, I doubt it though.

You don't think he ever tweaked his bullpen or kept a starter in longer (or shorter) than normal because he placed greater emphasis on a game he was betting? Gave a guy extra rest or less rest because a particular game was important--not to the standings as much as to his wallet? I mean, as competitive as he was and all.