Is Dahlen a lock ????? VS others at position why not ??

[Topps206]

He should be a lock. Nothing is guaranteed. If I had a vote: Adams, Breadon, Dahlen and Stovey would be those I selected.

While I'm not a champion of his case, I would vote for Walters before I'd vote for Ferrell.

[mybuddyinc]

Dahlen --- YES !!!!!!!!!!!

I have also felt Chris von der Ahe should be in. He did revolutionary things with ownership that weren't even thought of at the time.

Looking up Dahlen the other day, I also checked out George Davis. A lot of people think he shouldn't be in, but with his stats, a definite. Then, right below him in encyclopedia is Harry Davis, who, imo, also should be in.

[Yoda]

Anybody else feel that Tip O'Neil and Jimmy Ryan merit consideration? John

[Griffins]

I'd have Tony Mullane and Lefty O'Doul (for contributions on and off the field) on there as well.

[GregMitch34]

So, forgetting merit, do we think Dahlen WILL get voted in? And why? Because he's still on the ballot while others have been knocked off--and no other strong player candidates?

[Klrdds]

My vote is
Dahlen
Breadon
Stovey

With Herrmann, Adams, and Von Der Ahe worthy of election but not at this time.

[Fred]

The HOF should really look towards creating a "pioneers of the game" section that recognizes the early players from baseball history like Ross Barnes and a host of other 19th century players.

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by Fred

The HOF should really look towards creating a "pioneers of the game" section that recognizes the early players from baseball history like Ross Barnes and a host of other 19th century players.

I 100% agree Barnes should in the HOF.

[GregMitch34]

What hour tomorrow do they announce who is in?

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Griffins

I'd have Tony Mullane and Lefty O'Doul (for contributions on and off the field) on there as well.

I do not believe Dahlen is a lock but I do think Lefty O'Doul should be in the Hall of Fame!

Dahlen was the (pre Ty Cobb) in terms of surliness and bad attitude. He was not well liked but look where that got Cobb! Of course it helps to have a lifetime .366 BA!

Dahlen's surliness certianly was not limited to the field as The Chicago Inter Ocean of January 4, 1901 reported Dahlen’s wife suing for divorce, alleging he choked her in February 1897 and struck her that December. The suit also claimed Dahlen had threatened his wife’s life and used “vile, abusive, and opprobrious language” toward her.

I guess in retrospect he will fit in nicely with some other Hall of Famers!

Peace, Mike

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

I do not believe Dahlen is a lock but I do think Lefty O'Doul should be in the Hall of Fame!

Dahlen was the (pre Ty Cobb) in terms of surliness and bad attitude. He was not well liked but look where that got Cobb! Of course it helps to have a lifetime .366 BA!

Dahlen's surliness certianly was not limited to the field as The Chicago Inter Ocean of January 4, 1901 reported Dahlen’s wife suing for divorce, alleging he choked her in February 1897 and struck her that December. The suit also claimed Dahlen had threatened his wife’s life and used “vile, abusive, and opprobrious language” toward her.

I guess in retrospect he will fit in nicely with some other Hall of Famers!

Peace, Mike

Now if we could only get Lefty O'Doul in!
Peace, Mike

[z28jd]

I'm almost as annoyed right now as when they snubbed Ron Santo until after he died, or when Buck O'Neil didn't get in with everyone else. Rarely do you follow a HOF vote and say "good job", they're almost as bad at their job as weathermen, yet they somehow keep doing it

[Yoda]

Lefty O'Doul owned and ran a bar restaurant in San Francisco. It still exists and serves great pub grub. Right off Union Square, if I recall. Joe DiMaggio, a buddy of Lefty's when they both played with the Seals, tried unsuccessfully for many years to get him into the Hall but to no avail. Probably too late now. John

[GregMitch34]

Again, my query is, forgetting others, is Dahlen a lock--and if so, why????

[RaidonCollects]

One player who I don't think who should get in: Frank McCormick. He was a good player, but certainly not hof worthy.

I can't wait to see who's going to get in,

~Owen

EDIT: Also.. to Greg who had the question above,

Dahlen is considered by some a lock, mostly because of the new SABR stats (mostly WAR), it shows how some players were very valuable to their team, even if other stats show otherwise. Dahlen is one of these players.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Lefty O'Doul owned and ran a bar restaurant in San Francisco. It still exists and serves great pub grub. Right off Union Square, if I recall. Joe DiMaggio, a buddy of Lefty's when they both played with the Seals, tried unsuccessfully for many years to get him into the Hall but to no avail. Probably too late now. John

Now I really have a reason to head West. That sounds very cool! Thanks for the tip.

Mike

[Topps206]

I think Dahlen does get in. Looking at the candidates, Dahlen has the strongest case among players. They elected three before, why not three or four this time?

[refz]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Lefty O'Doul owned and ran a bar restaurant in San Francisco. It still exists and serves great pub grub. Right off Union Square, if I recall. Joe DiMaggio, a buddy of Lefty's when they both played with the Seals, tried unsuccessfully for many years to get him into the Hall but to no avail. Probably too late now. John

My grandparents gave me this Lefty O Douls ashtray from his bar.

Jimmy Ryan, Jack Glasscock, Bill Dahlen

[GaryPassamonte]

Ditto for Ross Barnes. He was the best of his era. This cabinet is not mine, but I would sure like to find one.