1955 Topps Cello Ripped Open

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

Why haven't any of the "Clemente Truthers" pointed to the fact that his post history shows a pattern of buying/selling/ripping upopened vintage packs?

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

Actually, considering the Clemente is notoriously OC, it makes perfect sense to me.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

Actually, considering the Clemente is notoriously OC, it makes perfect sense to me.

Please explain how this theory works in relation to the position of the card on the sheet and the cutting process. This should be interesting.

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

A dead nuts centered Clemente that he just happens to have?

You're trying to compare a poor '88 Jordan to a pretty nice '55 Clemente.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

You're trying to compare a poor '88 Jordan to a pretty nice '55 Clemente.

Ummm, no. I'm not comparing the cards. I'm comparing the circumstances in which the cards were "pulled".

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Ummm, no. I'm not comparing the cards. I'm comparing the circumstances in which the cards were "pulled".

Do tell....please share how these two events are so closely related.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

Do tell....please share how these two events are so closely related.

Once again, you're not reading all the posts. I already shared how how they're related in post #76. But, to save you time, let me say it again in this post. Both events involve the opening of a pack, and a card that wasn't original to the pack being inserted into the results so that it looks like it came from the pack. Both are an attempt to deceive in order to bring attention to one's self.

[Buythatcard]

Is it odd to open a pack that has 19 cards that are off centered? I would think that atleast some of the cards would not be off centered. Is it possible that he bought this unopened pack that was once opened?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Once again, you're not reading all the posts. I already shared how how they're related in post #76. But, to save you time, let me say it again in this post. Both events involve the opening of a pack, and a card that wasn't original to the pack being inserted into the results so that it looks like it came from the pack. Both are an attempt to deceive in order to bring attention to one's self.

Both events involve opening a pack............the rest seems like speculation to me.

We've all opened packs that have had both centered and off-centered cards in them.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Both events involve opening a pack............the rest seems like speculation to me.

We've all opened packs that have had both centered and off-centered cards in them.

Since neither of us were there, aren't we both speculating?

Again, believe what you want to. I really don't care.