1955 Topps Cello Ripped Open

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

I've read.

Can you answer my question?

Sure. Your original question was, ""What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

Answer: attention - just as in the thread I linked. Unfortunately, in that thread, it wasn't the kind of attention he was looking for.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Sure. Your original question was, ""What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

Answer: attention - just as in the thread I linked. Unfortunately, in that thread, it wasn't the kind of attention he was looking for.

The only thing I got from that other thread, was that I should have bought as many boxes of 1988-89 Fleer basketball as I could find in 2009, at the prices I saw them trading at.

As for the correlation, unless the guy who opened the 1955 Topps pack is the same guy, or he was trying to stimulate the market before dumping a bunch of his own 1955 Topps Cellos on to the market..........I don't see a correlation.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I don't see a correlation.

The guy that ripped the Fleer Basketball Pack inserted a Jordan and tried to play it off as if it were in the pack. Unfortunately for him, someone knew the sequence and he was busted.

I believe the guy that opened the '55 cello pack inserted the Clemente. I don't believe that Clemente came in the pack for many reasons.

You don't see the correlation? They both tried to fake pack rips. At least that's my contention.

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The guy that ripped the Fleer Basketball Pack inserted a Jordan and tried to play it off as if it were in the pack. Unfortunately for him, someone knew the sequence and he was busted.

I believe the guy that opened the '55 cello pack inserted the Clemente. I don't believe that Clemente came in the pack for many reasons.

You don't see the correlation? They both tried to fake pack rips. At least that's my contention.

What you think...



In reality...

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Sure. Your original question was, ""What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

Answer: attention - just as in the thread I linked. Unfortunately, in that thread, it wasn't the kind of attention he was looking for.

Yeah his unusually high 254 posts screams that he is looking for attention.

Why haven't any of the "Clemente Truthers" pointed to the fact that his post history shows a pattern of buying/selling/ripping upopened vintage packs?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

Why haven't any of the "Clemente Truthers" pointed to the fact that his post history shows a pattern of buying/selling/ripping upopened vintage packs?

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

Actually, considering the Clemente is notoriously OC, it makes perfect sense to me.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

Actually, considering the Clemente is notoriously OC, it makes perfect sense to me.

Please explain how this theory works in relation to the position of the card on the sheet and the cutting process. This should be interesting.

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

They also show a history of some "amazing" pulls.

Believe what you want to believe. When a pack contains 19 horribly off-center cards and one dead centered Clemente, that doesn't raise a red flag for you?

A dead nuts centered Clemente that he just happens to have?

You're trying to compare a poor '88 Jordan to a pretty nice '55 Clemente.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

You're trying to compare a poor '88 Jordan to a pretty nice '55 Clemente.

Ummm, no. I'm not comparing the cards. I'm comparing the circumstances in which the cards were "pulled".

[jbhofmann]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Ummm, no. I'm not comparing the cards. I'm comparing the circumstances in which the cards were "pulled".

Do tell....please share how these two events are so closely related.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

Do tell....please share how these two events are so closely related.

Once again, you're not reading all the posts. I already shared how how they're related in post #76. But, to save you time, let me say it again in this post. Both events involve the opening of a pack, and a card that wasn't original to the pack being inserted into the results so that it looks like it came from the pack. Both are an attempt to deceive in order to bring attention to one's self.