1955 Topps Cello Ripped Open

[MULLINS5]

I've dealt with the ripper and would be shocked if I heard that it had been tampered with. Yes, it's true he pulled a Gretzky rookie (Topps) recently and received an 8.5 from PSA on it. It was a big hit and he shared it with the collecting community. He shared the '55 rip because, well it's a big rip. As for the "writing" on the back -- I'm a novice collector and can tell that that is NOT writing on the back. As for the rest of the cards, again a novice, but I remember busting tons of 1979 Hockey and the one card in the set that is notoriously OC is #161 Mike Bossy. Whenever I pulled a decently centered one the rest of the cards were garbage OC and miscut. In this case the Clemente is a notoriously OC card and, I'd assume, that in order to find one centered the cards cut around it would have to be butchered.

[vthobby]

This is the exact same photo he posted as the back of the card that he got from that pack!!! That is funny!

It is pretty funny watching the "believers" hail the Holy Grail. Even funnier seeing the initials clearly written on the back to the right of "Throws Right"!


Peace, Mike

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[MULLINS5]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

This is the exact same photo he posted as the back of the card that he got from that pack!!! That is funny!

It is pretty funny watching the "believers" hail the Holy Grail. Even funnier seeing the initials clearly written on the back to the right of "Throws Right"!


Peace, Mike

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Yet here is an eBay auction with the SAME "writing"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

Yet here is an eBay auction with the SAME "writing"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557

I looked at a few and all the ones with the print defect on the front have that "writing" on the back.

[donniebaseball]

This was also from the CU thread. The card is currently being offered on eBay and has the same exact marking or "initials" on the reverse of another '55 Clemente. That mark is from Topps, not from a collector.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557

[glchen]

I stand corrected. It's not writing. Apologies to the ripper.

[vthobby]

not convinced. The Clemente being centered while every other card is way off, Clemente was the second to last card pulled for what I admit was quite the dramatic effect if staged. I'm a non believer. Prove me wrong. Let me see the video!

Peace, Mike

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by MULLINS5

In this case the Clemente is a notoriously OC card and, I'd assume, that in order to find one centered the cards cut around it would have to be butchered.

If the Clemente came from a single strip, I could possibly buy that theory. But, since it was from a sheet, I don't.

If that were true, that would mean other cards, either in the same row or column depending on the miscut, would be just as centered as the Clemente.

[slidekellyslide]

I'm not a member of CU so I can't ask myself, but why doesn't someone ask the "Ripper" if he recorded the opening, and if he did not record, why didn't he?

[jbhofmann]

We got Clemente Truthers now....lol

[rjackson44]

this is funny

[jbhofmann]

I guess I fall into the camp of--

"What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

The conspiracy is way too involved to gain absolutely nothing.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

I guess I fall into the camp of--

"What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

The conspiracy is way too involved to gain absolutely nothing.

+1

2 things to consider.

1) He would have had to find a previously unknown and centered Clemente with sharp corners in order to pull this off.

2) If he did already have a previously unknown and centered Clemente with sharp corners, are we saying that he decided that he must overpay for an unopened cello pack so that he could slide it in for a rip? Why?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

I guess I fall into the camp of--

"What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

The conspiracy is way too involved to gain absolutely nothing.

Read the whole thread before commenting - especially post #28.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

I guess I fall into the camp of--

"What does he have to gain by fabricating this?"

The conspiracy is way too involved to gain absolutely nothing.

Might well ask what does anyone have to gain from having the top set on the PSA registry. Notoriety, celebrity within our little pathetic circle, lighting up the chat boards, any number of ego boosts.

[ALR-bishop]

With all the stuff happening in the hobby these days I guess it is natural there would be both a tendency to be happy for such a collector (and maybe a little envious), and also skeptical. We can be a cynical group at times. Sign of the times maybe

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jbhofmann

We got Clemente Truthers now....lol

Oh yeah? What about Building 7?