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Old 12-03-2015, 04:45 PM
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Come on, would it really be the first time a CU member faked a pack rip?

https://forums.collectors.com/messag...rd1=jordan+rip
I am not a card guy, have enough problems with autographs, but why would someone do this? Over sized ego??
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:27 PM
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I hope this does not open the floodgates of packs with "popped seals" showing up at auctions. I do not mean to cast doubt on this specific pack.
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:43 PM
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I've dealt with the ripper and would be shocked if I heard that it had been tampered with. Yes, it's true he pulled a Gretzky rookie (Topps) recently and received an 8.5 from PSA on it. It was a big hit and he shared it with the collecting community. He shared the '55 rip because, well it's a big rip. As for the "writing" on the back -- I'm a novice collector and can tell that that is NOT writing on the back. As for the rest of the cards, again a novice, but I remember busting tons of 1979 Hockey and the one card in the set that is notoriously OC is #161 Mike Bossy. Whenever I pulled a decently centered one the rest of the cards were garbage OC and miscut. In this case the Clemente is a notoriously OC card and, I'd assume, that in order to find one centered the cards cut around it would have to be butchered.
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:03 PM
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This is the exact same photo he posted as the back of the card that he got from that pack!!! That is funny!

It is pretty funny watching the "believers" hail the Holy Grail. Even funnier seeing the initials clearly written on the back to the right of "Throws Right"!


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Old 12-03-2015, 06:11 PM
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This is the exact same photo he posted as the back of the card that he got from that pack!!! That is funny!

It is pretty funny watching the "believers" hail the Holy Grail. Even funnier seeing the initials clearly written on the back to the right of "Throws Right"!


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Yet here is an eBay auction with the SAME "writing"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:19 PM
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Yet here is an eBay auction with the SAME "writing"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557
I looked at a few and all the ones with the print defect on the front have that "writing" on the back.
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:16 PM
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This was also from the CU thread. The card is currently being offered on eBay and has the same exact marking or "initials" on the reverse of another '55 Clemente. That mark is from Topps, not from a collector.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-TOPPS-B...p2047675.l2557
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Old 12-03-2015, 06:20 PM
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I stand corrected. It's not writing. Apologies to the ripper.
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Old 12-03-2015, 07:01 PM
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not convinced. The Clemente being centered while every other card is way off, Clemente was the second to last card pulled for what I admit was quite the dramatic effect if staged. I'm a non believer. Prove me wrong. Let me see the video!

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Old 12-03-2015, 09:32 PM
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In this case the Clemente is a notoriously OC card and, I'd assume, that in order to find one centered the cards cut around it would have to be butchered.
If the Clemente came from a single strip, I could possibly buy that theory. But, since it was from a sheet, I don't.

If that were true, that would mean other cards, either in the same row or column depending on the miscut, would be just as centered as the Clemente.
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I'm not a member of CU so I can't ask myself, but why doesn't someone ask the "Ripper" if he recorded the opening, and if he did not record, why didn't he?
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We got Clemente Truthers now....lol
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this is funny
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:39 AM
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With all the stuff happening in the hobby these days I guess it is natural there would be both a tendency to be happy for such a collector (and maybe a little envious), and also skeptical. We can be a cynical group at times. Sign of the times maybe
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We got Clemente Truthers now....lol
Oh yeah? What about Building 7?
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