Values on the rise for pre-war?

[SMPEP]

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

[Sean]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

Patrick, just take the same approach that I take: don't spend your money on 1986 Topps cards, and make fun of those who do.
Then I can spend it on a T206 with a printing flaw instead.

[Centauri]

Regarding 86 Topps Football - I have been watching the prices on unopened boxes, and they are up 200-300% in the last few months.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Centauri

Regarding 86 Topps Football - I have been watching the prices on unopened boxes, and they are up 200-300% in the last few months.

Not only is this not a modern card section..but it is not a football section either?

Keep this shit where it belongs dammit!!!!!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Not only is this not a modern card section..but it is not a football section either?

Keep this shit where it belongs dammit!!!!!

So, Pete. Would it be inappropriate for me to discuss unopened boxes of Pokémon cards in this thread?



Best regards,

Eric

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Eric72

So, Pete. Would it be inappropriate for me to discuss unopened boxes of Pokémon cards in this thread?



Best regards,

Eric

as long as they are prewar pokemon...that is fine...just seems like maybe this section should be re categorized like ebay as all kinds of modern crap is discussed routinely.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

as long as they are prewar pokemon...that is fine...just seems like maybe this section should be re categorized like ebay as all kinds of modern crap is discussed routinely.

Pete,

I guess it depends on which war we're discussing. Obviously, Pokémon is modern. Still, boxes of '86 Topps Football are nearly 30 years old. For some collectors, that goes way back to the olden days.

I am obviously messing with you at this point. Please take my posts for what they are. A bit of levity directed towards someone who will (hopefully) get the joke.

Best regards,

Eric

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

its still good for the hobby that the psa 10s are going for big money....gets people involved..some may then buy psa 9s etc.....never a bad thing for people to pay big money on cards.....as $1 cards are still there for us to be happy with.....economy is doing well I guess...

[Mountaineer1999]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

its still good for the hobby that the psa 10s are going for big money....gets people involved..some may then buy psa 9s etc.....never a bad thing for people to pay big money on cards.....as $1 cards are still there for us to be happy with.....economy is doing well I guess...

I don't see how a $2400 '86 Sandberg is good for the hobby.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

I don't see how a $2400 '86 Sandberg is good for the hobby.

I don't see how its bad for the hobby.....anyone that wants a raw sandberg can get it or even one that's a psa 8 or 9......why not let someone who values a psa 10 pay for it...you figure if you have a cy young or other more established card in hand then it doesn't hurt that a 1986 card can go for 2400 in terms of value of your old vintage card..maybe the sale wont help it..but it wont hurt...

people with money buying cards is never a bad thing..

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I don't see how its bad for the hobby.....anyone that wants a raw sandberg can get it or even one that's a psa 8 or 9......why not let someone who values a psa 10 pay for it...you figure if you have a cy young or other more established card in hand then it doesn't hurt that a 1986 card can go for 2400 in terms of value of your old vintage card..maybe the sale wont help it..but it wont hurt...

people with money buying cards is never a bad thing..

I kinda agree. It means the hobby is strong especially among the set registry folks.

[Rollingstone206]

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[oldjudge]

T210s seem to be getting more and more popular

[rdixon1208]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

T210s seem to be getting more and more popular

I've noticed this too

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

This is the kind of stuff I like to see. I think it would be great if some investors (or syndicates) bought up particular pre-war cards and started controlling the market on them. If an individual (or syndicate) had 90% of the population of a particular card controlled they could technically destroy a large percentage of the lower grades to accomplish what I could see as almost a dollar for dollar transfer of value to the remaining cards... Thats what I'm talking about since we don't have enough natural vintage card destruction anymore

I am all in favor of t206 destruction...i have a handful of "hostages" as we speak...awaiting their inevitable fate!

[Rollingstone206]

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[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I am all in favor of t206 destruction...i have a handful of "hostages" as we speak...awaiting their inevitable fate!

Beheading white border videos.

Say it aint so, Pete

[BBB]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

This is the kind of stuff I like to see. I think it would be great if some investors (or syndicates) bought up particular pre-war cards and started controlling the market on them. If an individual (or syndicate) had 90% of the population of a particular card controlled they could technically destroy a large percentage of the lower grades to accomplish what I could see as almost a dollar for dollar transfer of value to the remaining cards... Thats what I'm talking about since we don't have enough natural vintage card destruction anymore

Better yet: don't destroy em. Hold em. When the price goes up, flood the market and run!

[bbcard1]

But there are many cards from the 80s where not a single specimen in a grade "1" exist. Is this not a great investment opportunity?

[Rollingstone206]

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[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

I see stuff like $2,400+ for a 1986 Topps Ryne Sandberg ... and it makes me wonder what is wrong with this hobby.

You're telling me that a card that can be bought in NM (or better) condition every single day on Ebay for $1 (plus what whatever for shipping) is worth and additional $2,400 because it is entombed in a plastic case saying it is a 10? Seriously? I get the four corners look better under a microscope, but you think you should pay a premium for that? You can't think of anything better to spend $2,400 on?

Everyday I wonder how I can be involved in a hobby where people are willing to spend their money like that.
Patrick

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.

A whole new respect for Adam now

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

A whole new respect for Adam now

+1, good stuff.

[uniship]

"every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era"

BAAHAHAHAHAHAH

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.

despite public opinion...I like fannie packs!!!!

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.

Early nominee for POTY!

[BicycleSpokes]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Patrick, there have always been and will always be stupid, greedy people out there. If they ceased to exist I wouldn't have a job...Just remember that almost 50% of the American public is of below average intelligence, and they are allowed to vote, own guns, drive and procreate. And buy cards. Think of it this way: every time one of these fellows gets it in his mullet-topped head to open his fanny pack and spend the ciggie money on a PSA 10 card from the overjuiced, overproduced era, he is not putting his hand into the prewar cookie jar. We all can sit back and smirk at him and his 200# heifer-wife as they waddle down the aisle at the National in their jorts, but at least they aren't pissing in the prewar bidders pool.

That was beautiful.


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