Values on the rise for pre-war?

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by BBB

Good point on the CJs flattening out about 6 months ago. Guess it was all the documentation on the 100th anniversary that riled folks up. I know it had me looking at my 1915s and wondering if I should trade some out for a cool factor 1914 (but didn't want to buy high).

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

We have an optimist in our midst !

[BBB]

All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by BBB

All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol

what is the most any graded 1987 topps card has sold for in the past 5 years?

[glchen]

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glchen

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

so maybe it wouldn't of been a bad idea to save those 1987 topps football when everyone pre-bubble thought they would be worth keeping..maybe they were right! maybe the bubble never burst..

(incidentally I checked the Rice link... Four bid retractions? when the card was in the 10k range? fishy?)

was asking about 1987 topps baseball actually though...

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by glchen

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

"Insane!!!!!!!"

Joe

[darwinbulldog]

Yeah, well, Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver in NFL history, and that's a rookie card. Clearly it's overpriced by any of our standards, but it does make more sense than this:

http://smalltraditions.com/1986-topp...r-lot2473.aspx

[BBB]

That 1986 Sandberg brings up this old question...

Could certain card pops be low simply b/c no one thinks they are worth submitting? Won't the market get flooded after a sale like this w/ folks submitting theirs to try and cash in on the trend and cause the values to come crashing back down to reality? I probably donated cards like this because they were not worth the cardboard they were printed on. Could someone interested in playing the odds simply submit a couple hundred top condition value-less star cards for a few thousand and then sell 2 or 3 of those hundreds of cards for $1,000s and toss the rest in the garbage? Could it be that simple?

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

[GregMitch34]

Maybe high-graded CJ 15s will bd this year's CJ 14s--the prices on some PSA 8s have really soared lately.

Disappointed that prices on M116s and Ramlys continue to collapse, despite being "cool" cards...

Old Judges seem to keep falling....

[Exhibitman]

The Pelty horizontal has always sold at a premium. Besides general attractiveness of the format and image it is a Jewish player and I think it is a 150-only card.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The Pelty horizontal has always sold at a premium. Besides general attractiveness of the format and image it is a Jewish player and I think it is a 150-only card.

The prices jumped about a year or so ago. I saw the prices starting to go up and looked to grab a couple for the "normal" prices and every one just kept going higher. It leveled off a few months ago and the prices are down a little, but still higher than a couple years ago

[asoriano]

Originally Posted by z28jd

The prices jumped about a year or so ago. I saw the prices starting to go up and looked to grab a couple for the "normal" prices and every one just kept going higher. It leveled off a few months ago and the prices are down a little, but still higher than a couple years ago

These aren't mine, but might explain the jump in price:

[brianp-beme]

Wow...certainly shows you how 'common' even tougher T206 cards are.

Brian

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by asoriano

These aren't mine, but might explain the jump in price:

That is possible that 118 belonging to one person could send the prices up. While it is a common card, that is still likely a decent % of the population, somewhere between 5-10%. I was originally thinking that people who do a back run of a player drive the prices up a little, as long as multiple people are doing it, but that is likely wrong because the common backs would still be plentiful and you wouldn't notice a price jump on them.

I know some people hate hoarding, but that is still pretty cool looking laid out like that. I only have two Pelty cards, one in my set and one has a split back and is missing red on front, but I was checking Ebay often once the prices started to jump, looking for someone to post with a low BIN.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by asoriano

These aren't mine, but might explain the jump in price:

Figures I counted 118 in that picture. Thanks for the knowledge on this card. Yet another one in the set that I'd love to get but doubt I'll ever fork out the cash for.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by z28jd

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

+1 on the tougher T206 commons. Another one that seems to be tough lately is Bull Durham...

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by z28jd

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

Since I posted this a week ago, the high-priced Puttman sold within a day. It was a raw copy, sold for $100. A PSA2 was listed with an $88 BIN and sold right away and another ungraded copy sold for $100 in an auction style listing.

Soooo, yeah...that didn't take long