One T206, Two Names

[tedzan]

I find it very interesting, that all of the DIFFERENT-2-NAMES cards that have been reported here are limited to ONLY from
the 150/350 series, or the 350-only series.

Furthermore, the TWO-NAME T206's that have been reported here from the 350/460 series and the 460-only series are
all SAME-NAME cards. Here's an additional 350/460 series SAME-NAME card to add to this list.


OLD MILL





My question is: why haven't we seen any DIFFERENT-2-NAMES cards from the 350/460 series, or the 460-only series ?


TED Z
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[t206hound]

Originally Posted by tedzan

My question is: why haven't we seen any DIFFERENT-2-NAMES cards from the 350/460 series, or the 460-only series ?

TED Z
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Great question, Ted. It's not from a lack of looking, because I certainly hunt. Perhaps the sheets in the 460 runs had the same player/pose in each column thereby making it impossible for a two-namer. Or perhaps we just haven't found one yet. If I were to lean in one direction, at this point I might just go with the "not possible" (same card vertically). I will keep looking, however!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Great question, Ted. It's not from a lack of looking, because I certainly hunt. Perhaps the sheets in the 460 runs had the same player/pose in each column thereby making it impossible for a two-namer. Or perhaps we just haven't found one yet. If I were to lean in one direction, at this point I might just go with the "not possible" (same card vertically). I will keep looking, however!

A total of only 21 cards from the 350/460 series and the 460-only series in this entire thread is an insufficient sample. So, we will keep searching.

However, I consider your "columns" point also possible, as it is consistent with my hypothetical sheet of the Exclusive 12 cards illustrated here.....






TED Z
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[Jantz]

Originally Posted by tedzan

My question is: why haven't we seen any DIFFERENT-2-NAMES cards from the 350/460 series, or the 460-only series ?


TED Z
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Hi Ted,

Good question.

Might be because of the limited player selection in the 350/460 series and 460-only series that no two different name T206s have been found. Same player-same column.

As you and others have mentioned, possibly smaller sheets and only a few players per sheet.

Selection of players limited in late 1910 to 1911 because they were wrapping up the print run for the new card set that they were replacing the T206s with.

All speculation of course, but it sure makes for a good mystery to solve.

As Er!ck has posted, I'm also looking for that first 350/460 or 460 two different name T206 to appear, but nothing yet.

Nice selection of two same namers with different backs.

Here is another mis-cut with a back not seen often. (not my card)


Jantz

[Jantz]

Here is the list. Slight typo on earlier post - 52 total

American Beauty 350 framed

Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350

Beck - Unglaub

Piedmont 150

Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Spade - Cicotte
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Manning (batting) - Flick

Piedmont 350

Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Rossman - McBride
Turner - Lobert
Egan - Warhop
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
McGinley - Speaker
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Butler - Raymond
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-30

Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal 350-25

Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown

McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)

The rest - back information unknown or damaged

Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)


I think I got all this information posted correctly. If anyone spots a discrepancy or can add anything else, please post it up.

Jantz

[t206hound]

This is a really weak example, but it is a two-namer. It is the second instance of Bender-Delehanty. Note that there are several printing attributes that demonstrate on both instances:

[The Nasty Nati]

wow nice sleuthing! I would have never picked up on that Bender.

[Jantz]

You're literally connecting the dots aren't you?

Nice work Er!ck!

[mrvster]

strikes again!

[t206hound]

Updates below:

Originally Posted by Jantz

Here is the list. Slight typo on earlier post - 52 56 total

American Beauty 350 framed

Hinchman, H. - Taylor

Cycle 350

Beck - Unglaub

Piedmont 150

Bender (port.) - Delehanty (Wash.)
Brown, M (port.) - Magee (port.)
Bradley (port.) - Bender (port.)
Killian (pitching) - Chance (red port.)
Lindaman - Bresnahan (port.)
Lundgren (Cubs) - Doolin
Lundgren (Cubs) - Ball (New York)
Powell (horizontal) - O'Leary (port.)
Spade - Cicotte
Hinchman, B. - Stovall (port.)
Manning (batting) - Flick
Walsh - Seymour (batting)
Johnson (port.) - Schlei (catching)
Bergen (bat) - Dooin
Shipke - Griffith

Piedmont 350

Abbaticchio (brown) - Cicotte
Atz - Hoffman (Providence)
Chase (blue port.) - Zimmerman
Hoblitzell - Stephens
Jennings (port.) - Jordan (port.)
Livingstone - Maloney
McElveen - Dygert
Elberfeld (NY port.) - Parent
Engle - Phillippe
McGraw (no cap port.) - Chesbro
Moran, H. - Arrellanes
Oakes - Easterly
Snodgrass (batting) - Maddox
Rossman - McBride
Turner - Lobert
Egan - Warhop
Herzog (NY) - Ritchey
McGinley - Speaker
Griffith (port.) - Chase (?)
Jackson - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Butler - Raymond
McIntyre (Detroit) - Hoffman (St. Louis)
Walsh - Brown, M (port.)
Chance (yellow port.) - Feine (?)
Delehanty (Wash.) - Waddell (port.)

Sweet Caporal 350-30

Barbeau - Strang
Graham (St. Louis) - Clark (Columbus)
Killian (port.) - Dubuc
McGlynn - Jones (Detroit)
Rossman - Thomas
Wagner, Heinie (left shoulder) - Schlei (catching)

Sweet Caporal 350-25

Lennox - Clancy

Sweet Caporal - factory number unknown

McGraw (front ?) - Hayden
Pickering - Myers (front )
Bowerman - Chance (front ?)

The rest - back information unknown or damaged

Walsh - Lumley Piedmont (back damage - no series number)
Bresnahan (port.) - Doolin
Criger - Ritchey
Keeler (front ?) - McGraw (front ?)


I think I got all this information posted correctly. If anyone spots a discrepancy or can add anything else, please post it up.

Jantz

[Eggoman]

As promised - scnas of my McGraw-Chesbro Piedmont 350 Card - now I gotta go and look closer to see if I missed any!

Enjoy!
Eggo

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by Eggoman

As promised - scnas of my McGraw-Chesbro Piedmont 350 Card - now I gotta go and look closer to see if I missed any!

Enjoy!
Eggo

Thanks! That was a known combo, so it may be a second occurrence. Appreciate the scans.

[Jantz]

Thanks Eggo for posting the scans!

Here is the other McGraw/Chesbro that was found. Same back as yours.