T206 Titus and Bliss *cancelled*

[Sean1125]

Todd, drop me a line I will give you your choice of t206 free from a rather large list.

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Todd, drop me a line I will give you your choice of t206 free from a rather large list.

That solves everything. Must be some guilt...

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by pgellis

That solves everything. Must be some guilt...

You are right. If not for me letting the seller know what it was worth he would have had the deal. I will reiterate I did not purchase the cards or receive them in any way.

[wazoo]

Just give it a rest. Were supposed to be a tight community here. We help each other learn from our mistakes. We introduce new members to ways on how to check the value of cards so they don't make the same mistake again. Yeah maybe a couple hundred isn't significant to one person but it could be to another. I think that transactions should not be canceled, but I feel that this is an exception. No one lost any money on the transaction. Honestly I wouldn't feel happy taking the card of person for a small fraction of what it's actually worth. If it's eBay that's a different story, but honesty it should just be a teaching lesson.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by wazoo

Just give it a rest. Were supposed to be a tight community here. We help each other learn from our mistakes. We introduce new members to ways on how to check the value of cards so they don't make the same mistake again. Yeah maybe a couple hundred isn't significant to one person but it could be to another. I think that transactions should not be canceled, but I feel that this is an exception. No one lost any money on the transaction. Honestly I wouldn't feel happy taking the card of person for a small fraction of what it's actually worth. If it's eBay that's a different story, but honesty it should just be a teaching lesson.

Wazoo...quit sucking up to the greater good...you're such a mooch!



Phil, it seems from your posts that you didn't receive a good night's rest last night...nothing personal, but to be this passionate and deep about something that really isn't that big of a deal is making you seem way off base here. I love your passion for integrity and rules, but sometimes there are exceptions and this is one case IMO...you don't have to agree, but it seems more than not, do agree. And to be quite honest, you are reminding me a lot of a fella called Bill Holler that has been frequenting the main boards lately and won't go away. I know you are better than this, and maybe after your deep slumber you will wake up and realize IT WASN'T THAT BIG OF A DEAL...



PS: I really dig your SGC 50's and better T206 collection...I'd love to see a pic of them someday.



Sean...are you giving Net54 members a discount at your booth at the National? I didn't see anything in your signature line about it...

[Louieman]

Here's the photo pgellis requested...included his post so it dates the photo...couldn't post this earlier, had a busy day...

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Louieman

Here's the photo pgellis requested...included his post so it dates the photo...couldn't post this earlier, had a busy day...

It's lame that it had to come that this, but props to Louieman for proving he's got the card and hopefully ending this thread.

pgellis, I know it was a ridiculous leap from Titus to a plane crash, but that's how ridiculous I felt the animosity and accusations in this thread were. Curious why/how you were so certain that Louieman had sold this card, but very glad to see he didn't... and to see some faith in humanity restored. It was an honest mistake. No one was robbed of their money, no one set out to deceive, no one died. That's good enough for me. Now move on.

[pgellis]

Mike, you are correct......I didn't get much sleep all week and was rather cranky all week. For some reason this really got to me..........but as I promised, once I saw the photo I will let this go.

This will be my last post in this thread. I believe more in honor and integrity than money........but that's just me.

[frankbmd]

That duct tape on the iPad looks awfully suspicious.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

That duct tape on the iPad looks awfully suspicious.

Made me laugh!!

[BlueSky]

It looks like he tried to crack his iPad. He might be looking to resubmit it to get a bump up to an iPad Air.

Originally Posted by frankbmd

That duct tape on the iPad looks awfully suspicious.

[dougscats]

I'm most often reserved these days, but the ethics and the dilemma are so basic in this case that I want to weigh in.

[To think or to act?]

Usually, I think something over before I bid, but this is a case where one has to bid before deliberating, else the item might be sold to someone else first. Thinking it over will have to come later.

[To make a steal?]

Many [most?] of us love the idea of getting a "steal."
But of course anytime a steal is made someone is being stolen from.
Using the term steal may be unfair, but the point is that whenever we make a great deal someone else is paying, more or less.

[In principle, does a buyer have any responsibility to a seller?]

Surely, a seller has many responsibilities to potential buyers [full disclosure, etc.]. Does it work the other way as well? I do think that Net54 is different than Ebay, even as the auctions and the membership are different. Whatever the answer, a buyer's responsibility here is something that might be thought over after bidding.
There are idealists who might well counter that one's first resonse should be to inform the seller of the actual value and warn him not to sell. But, I'd maintain that on a Net54 auction, "I'll take it" is fastest, and one can be the idealist he wants to be after he wins.

Finally, in this case, what is the fair solution?
After some thought, I thought a 50-50% compromise would be fair.
But now I'm not so sure. I know that I feel better when I do the right thing [that's me, still the pragmatist even when being principled, a cynical idealist].

I do feel that Todd has been shortchanged. I don't know how he feels, but even someone who willingly returns a wallet is usually rewarded, no?