T206 Titus and Bliss *cancelled*

[Bored5000]

I sympathize with both the seller and the buyer, but I think the OP does deserve a mulligan as long as it never happens again. One thing I really like about this message board is that it is largely not as cutthroat as the hobby can be.

I would probably feel differently if the card would have been offered at 75 percent of its value or half its value. WRT the "honor" of the deal, wouldn't "honor" also come into play when buying a card for barely 10 percent of its value because the seller did not know what he had? I don't know either the buyer or the seller, but 10-15 percent of the card's value just feels wrong to me.

[frankbmd]

Not a lot of bliss in this thread. By the way what happened with the Bliss card?

[ullmandds]

Frank...when I saw your name I thought a song or poem was imminent...I must say I'm quite...disappointed!!!

[The Nasty Nati]

I feel for the seller. I wouldn't want to undersell something by $350.

[bobbyw8469]

Is the Titus still available for $60?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Is the Titus still available for $60?

I really hope you aren't being serious, Bobby.

[bobbyw8469]

:-p

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

I sympathize with both the seller amd the buyer, but I think the OP does deserve a mulligan as long as it never happens again. One thing I really like about this message board is that it is largely not as cutthroat as the hobby can be.

I would probably feel differently if the card would have been offered at 75 percent of its value or half its value. WRT the "honor" of the deal, wouldn't "honor" also come into play when buying a card for barely 10 percent of its value because the seller did not know what he had? I don't know either the buyer or the seller, but 10-15 percent of the card's value just feels wrong to me.

I fully agree.

Hope Loiueman sticks around and isn't totally put off my drama, just or not (They're just cards!!!!!). He seems like a nice guy that made an honest mistake... Plus selfishly, I'd love to see more active members in my immediate area.

[pgellis]

I sure hope the "Price Patrol" is working on a Friday......making sure there are no bargains for any potential buyers.

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by pgellis

I sure hope the "Price Patrol" is working on a Friday......making sure there are no bargains for any potential buyers.

I feel that a large part of this forum is to educate collectors. I was glad to see someone step in and point out that this guy had seriously undervalued his Titus card. We have a new poster listing what he believes are two ordinary commons and not realizing that Titus has been carrying a premium (for reasons often contemplated on this board).

Many of us know about the various ways to check sales histories but this guy has been here a month. He probably has no idea what cardtarget or VCP means. I feel like not letting him know this information in this particular instance would be taking advantage of him.

I'm not pointing out who is right and who is wrong in this particular situation. I just hate to see people bashing a guy over a lack of knowledge. He's just started here and already some are trying to run him off.

This is my opinion.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by ZachS

I feel that a large part of this forum is to educate collectors. I was glad to see someone step in and point out that this guy had seriously undervalued his Titus card. We have a new poster listing what he believes are two ordinary commons and not realizing that Titus has been carrying a premium (for reasons often contemplated on this board).

Many of us know about the various ways to check sales histories but this guy has been here a month. He probably has no idea what cardtarget or VCP means. I feel like not letting him know this information in this particular instance would be taking advantage of him.

I'm not pointing out who is right and who is wrong in this particular situation. I just hate to see people bashing a guy over a lack of knowledge. He's just started here and already some are trying to run him off.

This is my opinion.

I agree. I like this place because for the most part, we look out for each other and do small favors for one another. Most people are courteous and don't take advantage of the lax rules on the b/s/t and each other. This forum is a much better place than the entire marketplace of our hobby. I know there are plenty of cold, calculated business decisions made in the hobby. I just like it better when they happen on ebay or somewhere other than our forum.
This is more of a general commentary than a reaction to this thread. I'm not bashing Todd. I have had plenty of good dealings with him, and he contributes a lot to the forum.

[pgellis]

I'm willing to end the conversation from my end if the OP can prove he didn't sell it to someone else off-line. Most of you think he still has it, I don't. Let's see a photo of the card from the OP with today's or tomorrow's newspaper.

[bbcard1]

I think that the forum is the place for education, the B/S/T section is the place for commerce. Actually at the top of the section it says "Net54baseball Buy/Sell/Trade Section (must login, caveat emptor)" which means, loosely, let the buyer beware. I would assume that would extend to the seller as well, but apparently a fair number of people would disagree.

Had the OP come on to the forum and asked for information about the Titus, I would have been happy to have chimed in.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by pgellis

I'm willing to end the conversation from my end if the OP can prove he didn't sell it to someone else off-line. Most of you think he still has it, I don't. Let's see a photo of the card from the OP with today's or tomorrow's newspaper.

It's not a crime if he did sell it. Maybe it would reflect poorly on his baseball card chat room etiquette (which probably has little/nothing to with most peoples' real life issues) and if so, so be it. I personally trust he still has it, and also believe he's under no obligation to further prove he has it.