T206 Titus and Bliss *cancelled*

[pgellis]

I sure hope the "Price Patrol" is working on a Friday......making sure there are no bargains for any potential buyers.

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by pgellis

I sure hope the "Price Patrol" is working on a Friday......making sure there are no bargains for any potential buyers.

I feel that a large part of this forum is to educate collectors. I was glad to see someone step in and point out that this guy had seriously undervalued his Titus card. We have a new poster listing what he believes are two ordinary commons and not realizing that Titus has been carrying a premium (for reasons often contemplated on this board).

Many of us know about the various ways to check sales histories but this guy has been here a month. He probably has no idea what cardtarget or VCP means. I feel like not letting him know this information in this particular instance would be taking advantage of him.

I'm not pointing out who is right and who is wrong in this particular situation. I just hate to see people bashing a guy over a lack of knowledge. He's just started here and already some are trying to run him off.

This is my opinion.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by ZachS

I feel that a large part of this forum is to educate collectors. I was glad to see someone step in and point out that this guy had seriously undervalued his Titus card. We have a new poster listing what he believes are two ordinary commons and not realizing that Titus has been carrying a premium (for reasons often contemplated on this board).

Many of us know about the various ways to check sales histories but this guy has been here a month. He probably has no idea what cardtarget or VCP means. I feel like not letting him know this information in this particular instance would be taking advantage of him.

I'm not pointing out who is right and who is wrong in this particular situation. I just hate to see people bashing a guy over a lack of knowledge. He's just started here and already some are trying to run him off.

This is my opinion.

I agree. I like this place because for the most part, we look out for each other and do small favors for one another. Most people are courteous and don't take advantage of the lax rules on the b/s/t and each other. This forum is a much better place than the entire marketplace of our hobby. I know there are plenty of cold, calculated business decisions made in the hobby. I just like it better when they happen on ebay or somewhere other than our forum.
This is more of a general commentary than a reaction to this thread. I'm not bashing Todd. I have had plenty of good dealings with him, and he contributes a lot to the forum.

[pgellis]

I'm willing to end the conversation from my end if the OP can prove he didn't sell it to someone else off-line. Most of you think he still has it, I don't. Let's see a photo of the card from the OP with today's or tomorrow's newspaper.

[bbcard1]

I think that the forum is the place for education, the B/S/T section is the place for commerce. Actually at the top of the section it says "Net54baseball Buy/Sell/Trade Section (must login, caveat emptor)" which means, loosely, let the buyer beware. I would assume that would extend to the seller as well, but apparently a fair number of people would disagree.

Had the OP come on to the forum and asked for information about the Titus, I would have been happy to have chimed in.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by pgellis

I'm willing to end the conversation from my end if the OP can prove he didn't sell it to someone else off-line. Most of you think he still has it, I don't. Let's see a photo of the card from the OP with today's or tomorrow's newspaper.

It's not a crime if he did sell it. Maybe it would reflect poorly on his baseball card chat room etiquette (which probably has little/nothing to with most peoples' real life issues) and if so, so be it. I personally trust he still has it, and also believe he's under no obligation to further prove he has it.

[wolf441]

'Nuff Ced!!

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

It's not a crime if he did sell it. Maybe it would reflect poorly on his baseball card chat room etiquette (which probably has little/nothing to with most peoples' real life issues) and if so, so be it. I personally trust he still has it, and also believe he's under no obligation to further prove he has it.

That's the problem with today's world. I screw you, no problem, my mommy says I'm great.
What happened to civility?
Someone told me that I should get more money and someone actually offered me more money and I accepted it. No problem . I deserve it.

Let's see a photo.

It's OK to reneg and then sell it off-line? Bull

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by pgellis

That's the problem with today's world. I screw you, no problem, my mommy says I'm great.
What happened to civility?
Someone told me that I should get more money and someone actually offered me more money and I accepted it. No problem . I deserve it.

Let's see a photo.

It's OK to reneg and then sell it off-line? Bull

The Titus T-206 spike has been over the last couple years. Instead of listing what the OP thought was a market value, I guess the OP should have gone the eBay museum route and listed the card for an astronomical, over the moon BIN price and just slowly lowered the price until he had a bite.

Paying 10-15 percent of market value without divulging to the OP what he had just seems like taking advantage of someone, IMO.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by pgellis

That's the problem with today's world. I screw you, no problem, my mommy says I'm great.

My life and my upbringing are nothing like what you're insinuating as "today's world". Your comment frankly pisses me off. I've worked and competed every step of the way.

There are seriously way bigger things going on in the world. First off, hopefully your, and all of our lives. Beyond that, we've got an airline being downed by a SAM.. We've got countless wars. I don't mean to get way off topic, but I have no idea how something like this here, that seems so clearly an honest mistake without intent to deceive, can create so much vitriol. I feel bad for the buyer too and hope he and the seller can quietly patch things up.. but it's not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.