Fake Mays rookie

[Leon]

Originally Posted by H_T_Davis

Can I get a bit of help in getting this taken down?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141351804845...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Thanks,
Tom

I don't know '51 Bowmans as well as some others but have had and sold a fair amount. Is there a chance that could just be a bad scan or am I missing a telltale sign?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know '51 Bowmans as well as some others but have had and sold a fair amount. Is there a chance that could just be a bad scan or am I missing a telltale sign?

It's a cropped image.

Seller's scan:


A legit scan:

[HRBAKER]

Obviously the mini parallel, wonder if he has the refractor too!

[vintagetoppsguy]

How about the blue sapphire version?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's a cropped image.

The seller mentions in the listing's description that it is an altered card...because it would not fit in his Grandfathers card pages, it was trimmed down. Appears to have been done along the black border on the right edge....possibly authentic, absolutely altered.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Appears to have been done along the black border on the right edge....possibly authentic, absolutely altered.

Anything is possible, but I don't think so. The left border is cropped as well. Also, look at the name plate. It's in a different position than the real card. name plate altered too?

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Anything is possible, but I don't think so. The left border is cropped as well. Also, look at the name plate. It's in a different position than the real card. name plate altered too?

You are right about the name plate, you can see where it has been cut/pasted over to the left and is now flush with the right edge border. It would be interesting to see the back of the card.

[H_T_Davis]

If it were cut to preserve the right border, then the pieces slid over and put back together, the back should have the name and at least some of the stats showing. Basically, the back shows a card that has had the top removed - which would have included the right border on the front. Since the right border in intact on the front... Also, look at the difference in the quality of the black line surrounding the portrait on the front. The graded one is nice and neat, while this one has a ton of bleeding.

[savedfrommyspokes]

The two scans show what the description says...the card was trimmed down on the ends to fit into a sheet designed to hold 1950 Bowmans. If you look closely at the image of the front, you can tell by looking near each corner that the left and right edges have been pealed from the original cardboard and adhered to the appropriate side edges. The name plate of the card has been pealed and then adhered further to the left so that it is within the newly created right border. On the back, you can see the hand cut bottom edge(left front edge).

Very creative....can't believe someone would go through all this effort on a fake card, but who knows. If it is real, it is obviously altered(creatively). I would be interested to see if the seller has any other trimmed down 51 Bowmans.