Who can slighty best these WHOLESALE PRICES?? ALL CARDS SOLD!

[t206fix]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

LINK TO THE AUCTION



I think that's 3:38 AM EST (correct me if I'm wrong), but it looks like Bobby is telling the truth.

I think no one is to blame, it's just unfortunate. If I agree to a sale on the BST forum, I'm not taking down my listing that minute (especially with this board's reputation of reneging). I mean what can you do? The guy bought the card at 3:30 in the morning the night after to agreeing to a sale.

Not only this, but at $65 minus the $6.50 in fees and $2+ in shipping, Bobby did lose money. I think that if the email was worded a little different (as in, Sorry dude, I screwed up and sold this on ebay also. I forgot to take it down. Here is the link & I hope you understand.) Craig seems like a reasonable guy & I don't want to speak for him, but it seems like he would have understood. I think how it played out did seem shady. I've bought/sold with Bobby before so I know he's a good guy also.

[howard38]

Originally Posted by t206fix

Not only this, but at $65 minus the $6.50 in fees and $2+ in shipping, Bobby did lose money. I think that if the email was worded a little different (as in, Sorry dude, I screwed up and sold this on ebay also. I forgot to take it down. Here is the link & I hope you understand.) Craig seems like a reasonable guy & I don't want to speak for him, but it seems like he would have understood. I think how it played out did seem shady. I've bought/sold with Bobby before so I know he's a good guy also.

That sounds like he didn't lose any money. The forum price was $58 and the price for the card on Ebay minus the fees mentioned was $58.50.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by howard38

That sounds like he didn't lose any money. The forum price was $58 and the price for the card on Ebay minus the fees mentioned was $58.50.

I mean, I guess if we're getting real technical it comes out to $8.04 worth of fees.

$65.00 x 9% ebay fees = $5.85
$65.00 x 2.9% paypal fees + $.30 = $2.19

The money doesn't matter. The whole situation was just unfortunate and the message written could have been done better.

[cparker94]

As previously stated, the issue isn't about the amount he sold it for and whether it was higher or lower than we agreed upon. The issue is that he and I agreed that I would pay him $58 and wait until today to pay him. He later stated that he forgot to increase the price on his eBay auction and meanwhile it sold overnight. Had he told me this originally, I wouldn't have said anything publicly about it. But for him to say after we had an agreement..

"Sorry Craig....the Koufax sold on another site last night. I don't pull cards down until I actually have the money in hand. If it is any consolation, it sold for more money...I was actually wholesaling the cards for Net54 members."

...well, the whole thing just hit me wrong. After hearing the whole story from him, I do believe he made an honest mistake but his communications to me were not what I would expect from someone who has a great reputation as a seller. I do accept his apology, but still feel that card should be mine!

Oh well, anyone have a 1960 Topps Koufax PSA 6 that they want to sell to me for $58? LOL!

Craig from Texas

[Peter_Spaeth]

I think once someone has agreed to buy a card it should be taken down from ebay. I don't think it's right to insist that the person pay first. Just me.

[bobbyw8469]

I learned a valuable lesson in this whole ordeal. I am sorry for everything.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I mean, I guess if we're getting real technical it comes out to $8.04 worth of fees.

$65.00 x 9% ebay fees = $5.85
$65.00 x 2.9% paypal fees + $.30 = $2.19

The money doesn't matter. The whole situation was just unfortunate and the message written could have been done better.

You get charged 9% Ebay fees Jason? They are charging me 10%. I thought they charged EVERYONE 10%? If you are paying 9%, care to share? Every little bit helps, especially with the profit margins are so low....

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

You get charged 9% Ebay fees Jason? They are charging me 10%. I thought they charged EVERYONE 10%? If you are paying 9%, care to share? Every little bit helps, especially with the profit margins are so low....

I have an ebay store and I believe I'm only getting charged 9%. I may be wrong.

[jburl]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I have an ebay store and I believe I'm only getting charged 9%. I may be wrong.

Yes, you're correct. Store owner's, in general, get charged 9%. Some have special deals with eBay and pay less. 10% is what non-store owners pay.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by howard38

That sounds like he didn't lose any money. The forum price was $58 and the price for the card on Ebay minus the fees mentioned was $58.50.

The Ebay fee was $6.50, and the Paypal fee was $2.19, so I actually netted $56.31 compared to the $58 Craig was going to pay me. That is irrelevant though. I would much rather sell it to a board member than let Greedbay nickle and dime me to death like they have for years. I can spend a whole different thread just talking about all I see wrong with that company.

[4reals]

Same shady crap happened to me in February by a seller on these boards, only difference is I didn't receive nearly the support Craig Parker's getting.

Bottom line is if you agree with someone on a price remove the listing everywhere else.

In fact, the seller should contact the ebay buyer and explain that the listing was still up in error and that they'll get a full refund if they already paid and complete the transaction with the original buyer, Craig Parker in this instance.

[brob28]

"In fact, the seller should contact the ebay buyer and explain that the listing was still up in error and that they'll get a full refund if they already paid and complete the transaction with the original buyer, Craig Parker in this instance."


I agree 100%

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by brob28

"In fact, the seller should contact the ebay buyer and explain that the listing was still up in error and that they'll get a full refund if they already paid and complete the transaction with the original buyer, Craig Parker in this instance."


I agree 100%

Craig Parker wasn't the first to pay. We had a verbal agreement. Like someone else said, this board has alot of renegers. I myself have had more than my fair share of them. Until the payment has been made, what am I supposed to do? As I said earlier, usually I take measures to prevent that. That didn't happen. Maybe if some of the board members (I am not referring to you Craig) did a better job at following through.....just a thought.

[cparker94]

You are right. I wasn't the first to pay. We had an agreement and you broke that agreement by choosing to sell to someone else. Don't say you didn't have a choice because you forgot to raise the price. Mistakes happen and sometimes a person can increase their already good reputation in their actions following a mistake. After hearing the comments from others, although my opinion is biased, I agree you should have contacted the eBay buyer and explained what happened. It is my belief you acted in the way you did to protect your 100% feedback rating with eBay and to hell with me since this transaction is not EBay related. But of course, I could be wrong but that's how I, and possibly others reading this lengthy thread, feel.

Craig from Texas

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Craig Parker wasn't the first to pay. We had a verbal agreement. Like someone else said, this board has alot of renegers. I myself have had more than my fair share of them. Until the payment has been made, what am I supposed to do? As I said earlier, usually I take measures to prevent that. That didn't happen. Maybe if some of the board members (I am not referring to you Craig) did a better job at following through.....just a thought.

[howard38]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

The Ebay fee was $6.50, and the Paypal fee was $2.19, so I actually netted $56.31 compared to the $58 Craig was going to pay me. That is irrelevant though. I would much rather sell it to a board member than let Greedbay nickle and dime me to death like they have for years. I can spend a whole different thread just talking about all I see wrong with that company.

A few cents either way is no big deal. I was just pointing out what seemed like fuzzy math.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by howard38

A few cents either way is no big deal. I was just pointing out what seemed like fuzzy math.

If a few cents either way is no big deal, why bring it up in the first place?