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Old 06-02-2014, 12:32 PM
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I did word my PM to Craig this morning very poorly. I wasn't quite awake yet, and didn't phrase it as carefully as I should have. Being a true wordsmith has never been one of my strong suits. With that Craig, I am sorry. It was never my intention to incoveniece you in any, way shape or form. I do hope you accept my apology.
While the deed has already been done, why did you not inconvenience the other guy? He may have been more understanding of the fact that the card sold the previous night on a different site and you hadn't removed it yet. Seems as though that would have been easier track for an accepted apology than breaking your original sales agreement.

While I wouldn't call the whole sales tactic 'shady', I would agree that it isn't the best way to go about things, especially on an open forum where 'trust is a must'.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:36 PM
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While the deed has already been done, why did you not inconvenience the other guy? He may have been more understanding of the fact that the card sold the previous night on a different site and you hadn't removed it yet. Seems as though that would have been easier track for an accepted apology than breaking your original sales agreement.

While I wouldn't call the whole sales tactic 'shady', I would agree that it isn't the best way to go about things, especially on an open forum where 'trust is a must'.
Like Jason Simonds said, I had to go with the person who paid first. An unfortunate situation to be in, to say the least.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:46 PM
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Like Jason Simonds said, I had to go with the person who paid first. An unfortunate situation to be in, to say the least.
I highly disagree with that. It's like a contract. You can't, for the sake of arguing, back out of a sales agreement to sell a house to take a higher offer that comes in. Just because the loan amount doesn't show up for about 60 days after the agreement, doesn't mean that you can take a higher cash offer in the mean time. Any offers that trickle in afterwords, higher or lower, cannot be accepted. (I'm not a realtor, but that my best analogy for this.)

I know 'money talks' but when it comes to this forum (and others like it) I just assumed that it was in good character to oblige to agreements made. If you were afraid of non-payment, you should have made it clear that you were keeping the card for sale until cash was in hand.

While you have agreed that you made a mistake, an honest one at that, I find it baffling that you wouldn't try to correctly fix it. I would make all efforts in the future to let it be known that no sale is final until money is in your hand.

I say this all as a buyer who would be very frustrated if I found myself in this situation.

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Old 06-02-2014, 12:56 PM
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I highly disagree with that. It's like a contract. You can't, for the sake of arguing, back out of a sales agreement to sell a house to take a higher offer that comes in. Just because the loan amount doesn't show up for about 60 days after the agreement, doesn't mean that you can take a higher cash offer in the mean time. Any offers that trickle in afterwords, higher or lower, cannot be accepted. (I'm not a realtor, but that my best analogy for this.)

I know 'money talks' but when it comes to this forum (and others like it) I just assumed that it was in good character to oblige to agreements made. If you were afraid of non-payment, you should have made it clear that you were keeping the card for sale until cash was in hand.

While you have agreed that you made a mistake, an honest one at that, I find it baffling that you wouldn't try to correctly fix it. I would make all efforts in the future to let it be known that no sale is final until money is in your hand.

I say this all as a buyer who would be very frustrated if I found myself in this situation.
I see it differently. He has two options. Either way, you PO a customer.

Option 1 - PO a forum member and apologize
Option 2 - PO an eBay member, apologize, but still receive negative feedback

I think he chose the right option, but that's just me. Obviously there is no right or wrong answer - you end up with a PO customer either way. Again, unfortunate, but to keep analyzig it over and over doesn't do any good. It's already happened.
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:37 PM
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Robert,

How about posting the item number of the sold Koufax? I have received a couple of PMs doubting that you sold one last night and I think you would want to set the record straight.

Craig from Texas
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:39 PM
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robert,

how about posting the item number of the sold koufax? I have received a couple of pms doubting that you sold one last night and i think you would want to set the record straight.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:48 PM
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Much appreciated.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:52 PM
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I think that's 3:38 AM EST (correct me if I'm wrong), but it looks like Bobby is telling the truth.

I think no one is to blame, it's just unfortunate. If I agree to a sale on the BST forum, I'm not taking down my listing that minute (especially with this board's reputation of reneging). I mean what can you do? The guy bought the card at 3:30 in the morning the night after to agreeing to a sale.
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