Who can slighty best these WHOLESALE PRICES?? ALL CARDS SOLD!

[wilkiebaby11]

I've dealt with Craig in the past on jsut a couple of transactions, and I think on all of them, the agreement was he'd pay the next day; which I now know why. I didnt care why, an agreement was made and the card was 'his' UNLESS he broke our agreement (payment on next day, which he of course didnt). As the seller, I don't lose anything IF they don't pay. I would just put the card back up for sale and I'm no worse off.

The thing about a forum like this is that it is collectors working with other collectors. If there isn't any trust, then the forum is worthless.

Also, why not cancel the second transaction? It's pretty easy to do so on eBay, if it was indeed a mistake. That buyer surely will be pretty upset too, but at least you would have stayed true to your first agreement.

A man who cannot be trusted is not much. If you can believe his words and he lives up to them, he is a good man. If someone scams you or lies to you, or promises you something and never comes through, he's not much of a man.

My 2 cents.

[cparker94]

Just to clarify, my transactions with Steve were very successful and no agreement was broken between he and myself. I believe Steve means to say that IF I didn't pay by the agreed timeframe, he would place the card back on the market.

Craig from Texas

Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

I've dealt with Craig in the past on jsut a couple of transactions, and I think on all of them, the agreement was he'd pay the next day; which I now know why. I didnt care why though, an agreement was made and the card was 'his' until he broke our agreement (payment on next day). As the seller, I don't lose anything if he doesn't pay, I put the card back up for sale and I'm no worse off.

The thing about a forum like this is that it is collectors working with other collectors. If there isn't any trust, then the forum is worthless.

Also, why not cancel the second transaction? It's pretty easy to do so on eBay, if it was indeed a mistake. That buyer surely will be pretty upset too, but at least you would have stayed true to your first agreement.



My 2 cents.

[maddux311]

I don't see it as shady. It is an honest mistake and these things do happen time to time.

On another board, I had someone inquire about an item that I no longer had, but would be receiving more within a week or so. This person was willing to wait a week for me to receive, send them pictures and agree on terms. We did just that and I sent them payment information, only to not receive payment or a response. Basically even though we agreed on the sale, I jeopardized possible sales not having it listed. Would I sell to this person if they inquired again? Absolutely. They ended up responding and their explanation is totally understandable, just as the one with the OP.

[cparker94]

I'm trying to locate the Koufax on eBay's completed auction search results but can't seem to find it. I know eBay's searches can be tough at times. If anyone can find this card, please let me know as I'm curious to see the details.

Thank you --

Craig from Texas

[moeson]

It appears to have been sold for a best offer of $100 on 5/21!

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by moeson

It appears to have been sold for a best offer of $100 on 5/21!

Not mine...that card has a different cert number.

Plus the one that sold for $100 sold on May 21st. Your dates aren't matching up Columbo. The one from last night isn't showing up yet. It will be the same cert and everything.

[moeson]

My bad, although I also don't see the one from last night.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by moeson

My bad, although I also don't see the one from last night.

Ebay has gotten slow with showing recent activity. Usually take a full 24 hours before things start showing up in completed history.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by maddux31

I don't see it as shady.

Nor do I. It's unfortunate, call it even absent minded (heck, I'm guilty of that too), but shady? I can see it if he agreed to the price then accepted a higher offer, but he simply forgot to remove the card from eBay.

I've seen dealers make this mistake many times. It happens a lot more than you think. The dealer sells a card at a show that they also have for sale on eBay, but then forget to cancel the auction and someone else buys it on eBay. Again, nothing shady, just a mistake.

[bobbyw8469]

I did word my PM to Craig this morning very poorly. I wasn't quite awake yet, and didn't phrase it as carefully as I should have. Being a true wordsmith has never been one of my strong suits. With that Craig, I am sorry. It was never my intention to incoveniece you in any, way shape or form. I do hope you accept my apology.

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I did word my PM to Craig this morning very poorly. I wasn't quite awake yet, and didn't phrase it as carefully as I should have. Being a true wordsmith has never been one of my strong suits. With that Craig, I am sorry. It was never my intention to incoveniece you in any, way shape or form. I do hope you accept my apology.

While the deed has already been done, why did you not inconvenience the other guy? He may have been more understanding of the fact that the card sold the previous night on a different site and you hadn't removed it yet. Seems as though that would have been easier track for an accepted apology than breaking your original sales agreement.

While I wouldn't call the whole sales tactic 'shady', I would agree that it isn't the best way to go about things, especially on an open forum where 'trust is a must'.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

While the deed has already been done, why did you not inconvenience the other guy? He may have been more understanding of the fact that the card sold the previous night on a different site and you hadn't removed it yet. Seems as though that would have been easier track for an accepted apology than breaking your original sales agreement.

While I wouldn't call the whole sales tactic 'shady', I would agree that it isn't the best way to go about things, especially on an open forum where 'trust is a must'.

Like Jason Simonds said, I had to go with the person who paid first. An unfortunate situation to be in, to say the least.

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Like Jason Simonds said, I had to go with the person who paid first. An unfortunate situation to be in, to say the least.

I highly disagree with that. It's like a contract. You can't, for the sake of arguing, back out of a sales agreement to sell a house to take a higher offer that comes in. Just because the loan amount doesn't show up for about 60 days after the agreement, doesn't mean that you can take a higher cash offer in the mean time. Any offers that trickle in afterwords, higher or lower, cannot be accepted. (I'm not a realtor, but that my best analogy for this.)

I know 'money talks' but when it comes to this forum (and others like it) I just assumed that it was in good character to oblige to agreements made. If you were afraid of non-payment, you should have made it clear that you were keeping the card for sale until cash was in hand.

While you have agreed that you made a mistake, an honest one at that, I find it baffling that you wouldn't try to correctly fix it. I would make all efforts in the future to let it be known that no sale is final until money is in your hand.

I say this all as a buyer who would be very frustrated if I found myself in this situation.